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Svarupa Damodara: So similarly, we were discussing with the Balavanta Prabhu one day about the... He was giving a nice example that in a kingdom where the king stays... Just like Srila Prabhupada's example: living in an apartment. Srila Prabhupada and disciples and many other living entities stay in the same apartment, but a person, an individual, who knows his position is to serve the order of the head of the apartment, but somebody doesn't follow. He just goes away from the apartment. So Balavanta was asking what is the use of that? So similarly, when the cells... We can take out from one part of the body and can culture it, but what is the use? It produces, but actually it's not really behaving as it should. It has no value.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So similarly, we were discussing with the Balavanta Prabhu one day about the. . . He was giving a nice example that in a kingdom where the king stays. . . Just like Śrīla Prabhupāda's example: living in an apartment. Śrīla Prabhupāda and disciples and many other living entities stay in the same apartment, but a person, an individual, who knows his position is to serve the order of the head of the apartment, but somebody doesn't follow. He just goes away from the apartment. So Balavanta was asking what is the use of that? So similarly, when the cells. . . We can take out from one part of the body and can culture it, but what is the use? It produces, but actually it's not really behaving as it should. It has no value.
 
Prabhupada: Yes. They are just like machine parts. Parts and parcels, they are helping the whole machine work.


Svarupa Damodara: About Gurudasa Prabhu's that point, when the heart transplant, the soul stays in the subtle body. Is that sound?
Prabhupāda: Yes. They are just like machine parts. Parts and parcels, they are helping the whole machine work.


Prabhupada: Yes. Soul is always staying in the subtle body, and the subtle body is left when he goes to God or kingdom of God.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: About Gurudāsa Prabhu's that point, when the heart transplant, the soul stays in the subtle body. Is that sound?


Ravindra-svarupa: One thing I'm trying to understand is how is it that the soul wants different things and then the material body acts according to the desires of the soul. So there is a cause and there is an effect. Normally all our cause and effect, we see one material thing causing another material thing to happen. But how is it the spirit causes? What is the connection that spirit causes matter to do so many things? The spirit is manipulating the matter, but how? How is that contact there?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Soul is always staying in the subtle body, and the subtle body is left when he goes to God or kingdom of God.


Prabhupada: Contact? It is already in contact. You are in the material body. It is already in contact.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: One thing I'm trying to understand is how is it that the soul wants different things and then the material body acts according to the desires of the soul. So there is a cause and there is an effect. Normally all our cause and effect, we see one material thing causing another material thing to happen. But how is it the spirit causes? What is the connection that spirit causes matter to do so many things? The spirit is manipulating the matter, but how? How is that contact there?


Ravindra-svarupa: But I don't understand how that contact is working.
Prabhupāda: Contact? It is already in contact. You are in the material body. It is already in contact.
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"Soul is always staying in the subtle body, and the subtle body is left when he goes to God or kingdom of God"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Soul is always staying in the subtle body, and the subtle body is left when he goes to God or kingdom of God.


Svarūpa Dāmodara: So similarly, we were discussing with the Balavanta Prabhu one day about the. . . He was giving a nice example that in a kingdom where the king stays. . . Just like Śrīla Prabhupāda's example: living in an apartment. Śrīla Prabhupāda and disciples and many other living entities stay in the same apartment, but a person, an individual, who knows his position is to serve the order of the head of the apartment, but somebody doesn't follow. He just goes away from the apartment. So Balavanta was asking what is the use of that? So similarly, when the cells. . . We can take out from one part of the body and can culture it, but what is the use? It produces, but actually it's not really behaving as it should. It has no value.

Prabhupāda: Yes. They are just like machine parts. Parts and parcels, they are helping the whole machine work.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: About Gurudāsa Prabhu's that point, when the heart transplant, the soul stays in the subtle body. Is that sound?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Soul is always staying in the subtle body, and the subtle body is left when he goes to God or kingdom of God.

Ravīndra-svarūpa: One thing I'm trying to understand is how is it that the soul wants different things and then the material body acts according to the desires of the soul. So there is a cause and there is an effect. Normally all our cause and effect, we see one material thing causing another material thing to happen. But how is it the spirit causes? What is the connection that spirit causes matter to do so many things? The spirit is manipulating the matter, but how? How is that contact there?

Prabhupāda: Contact? It is already in contact. You are in the material body. It is already in contact.