Prabhupāda: Take credit as much as you deserve.
Satsvarūpa: The history of civilization in the West is that for centuries people believed whatever the Bible said about existence, and then, when science developed, the Bible did not appear very wise anymore, so they . . . they overthrew all the dogmatic teachings.
Prabhupāda: They are dogmatic teachings.
Satsvarūpa: So they take us like that too, another religious explanation.
Prabhupāda: No. Our religion is not faith; it is science. That is the fault. Fanaticism of Christianism, Muhammadanism has created this godlessness. But Vedic knowledge is not that. It is really knowledge.
Satsvarūpa: And in the beginning, when science began, modern science, the scientists would say something against the Bible that was different than the Bible, then they would torture him. The church would torture him, this Galileo, big scien . . . So they point these things out, that the church is not tolerant.
Prabhupāda: That is not our point. We want to understand God through philosophy. "Through philosophy" means logic. Blind faith is not our business. (break) ". . . such date I have posted. You have got the literature. If you permit me, then I can show some of the books." Then our local representatives advise, "You go and see this gentleman." In this way contact him and leave some books with him, that "You first of all see. Then decide." Very honest business.