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Prabhupāda: It's their duty to offer me respect, as much respect Kṛṣṇa is offered; more than that. That is their duty. But my duty is not that declare that I have become Kṛṣṇa. Then it is Māyāvādī. Then it is gone, everything is gone. Spiritual master is servant God, and Kṛṣṇa is God, and because in the absolute field there is no distinction between the servant and the master... There is distinction. The servant always knows that "I am servant," and master knows that "I am master," although still there is no distinction. That is absolute.
Prabhupāda: So it is very good that you have started the Kṛṣṇa Yoga Society. The name, name Kṛṣṇa was there; that has benefited you. Somehow or other, you developed some love for Kṛṣṇa. That has made you to come to us. That very conception that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord has benefited you. Only that qualification. So now you have come, you take it seriously, and according to regulative principle, then your life is perfect. But if Sai is still thinking of himself as God, that's not very good.
 
Then Vaikuṇṭha, all the inhabitants are just like Nārāyaṇa, and in Vṛndāvana, Goloka Vṛndāvana, all the cowherds boys, they are as good as Kṛṣṇa. They do not know that Kṛṣṇa is... They love Kṛṣṇa intensely, without knowing that He is God, and that is required. The love is required. Not that one has to know Kṛṣṇa is God. God or no God, we love Kṛṣṇa, unconditionally. That is required. Although Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord, but the vṛndāvana-vāsī, they do not know that Kṛṣṇa is God, but their love for Kṛṣṇa is so intense, that makes them perfect. That is required.
 
Premā pum-artho mahān (Caitanya-manjusa). We have to increase our love, I mean to say, so intensely. There is, Vṛndāvana, inhabitants Vṛndāvana, even Nārāyaṇa they did not care so much. They offered respect. They love Kṛṣṇa so. And that is required. Not to understand what is God, and not to become God, but to love Kṛṣṇa.


But you cannot understand God, neither you can understand Kṛṣṇa. That is because Kṛṣṇa is so unlimited. He, He, He becomes just, just like human being, human child, that is His grace; but it is not possible to understand Kṛṣṇa. He is unlimited. If one says that "I understood Kṛṣṇa," he is another fool. (laughs) Nobody can understand Kṛṣṇa. But still, one has to intensify his love for Kṛṣṇa without any deviation. That is perfection.
Devotee: I think he was only saying we should . . .
 
So it is very good that you have started the Kṛṣṇa Yoga Society. The name, name Kṛṣṇa was there; that has benefited you. Somehow or other, you developed some love for Kṛṣṇa. That has made you to come to us. That very conception that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord has benefited you. Only that qualification. So now you have come, you take it seriously, and according to regulative principle, then your life is perfect. But if Sai is still thinking of himself as God, that's not very good.
 
Devotee: I think he was only saying we should...


Prabhupāda: Yes. Nobody can be God.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Nobody can be God.


Devotee: ...(indistinct). He was never claiming that.
Devotee: (indistinct) . . . He was never claiming that.


Prabhupāda: This is Māyāvāda.
Prabhupāda: This is Māyāvāda.


Devotee: ...we were following the Vedic injunction of..., of treating the spiritual master...
Devotee: . . . we were following the Vedic injunction of . . . of treating the spiritual master . . .
 
Prabhupāda: We are, we are, we are in quality one with God. The substance as we are, the same as God. In that way we are not different, so far substance, just like a chemical composition, that is one. One can study Kṛṣṇa by studying His personal propensities. Just like the characteristic of the father is manifested in the characteristic of the son, or the son's characteristic is manifested in the father, similarly, all the characteristics of Kṛṣṇa are with..., are with us.
 
Indian man: Namaskāra.
 
Prabhupāda: Aiye.
 
Indian man: They wanted to (indistinct). They, they said they wanted to go out of (indistinct) station, so I came just now because... (break)
 
Prabhupāda: ...only, because we accepted Kṛṣṇa, guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.151|CC Madhya 19.151]]). The devotional service..., one can enter into the devotional service by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa and guru. Guru-kṛṣṇa. So one who is sincerely thinking of Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa gives him good spiritual master. And then, with the cooperation of spiritual master and Kṛṣṇa, the devotee becomes enhanced in spiritual life.
 
Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja. You have read our Teachings of Lord Caitanya? In there you will find both. So one has to serve, parallel, guru and Kṛṣṇa. To serve Kṛṣṇa under the direction of guru, that is perfection. And..., and..., and treat spiritual master as Kṛṣṇa, but not to commit mistake that he is Kṛṣṇa.
 
To love spiritual master as good as Kṛṣṇa, that's nice, but this is Māyāvāda if one thinks that spiritual master is Kṛṣṇa, or spiritual master declares himself that "I am Kṛṣṇa." That is very offensive. That will check further progress in spiritual life.
 
So I will reply this letter. It is very good. Welcome. You are welcome. You are sincere soul, and follow these regulative principle, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, then officially we shall accept you, and you work jointly. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is necessary throughout the whole world.
 
So Sai is intelligent boy, you are intelligent; take it seriously, and reclaim the confused boys, those who are passing as hippies. Try to convince them about the importance of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. They will be saved. Your country will be saved. The world will be saved. People will be happy. It is a nice movement. Try to understand.


You have got immense work to do. These fallen souls, these misguided, confused boys and girls, I have got every sympathy for them. They have been misguided, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu especially meant for them. Let them take to this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. They will get what they are searching after. These confused boys and girls, they are searching after something happy. They will find it in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That's a fact.
Prabhupāda: We are, we are, we are in quality one with God. The substance as we are, the same as God. In that way we are not different, so far substance, just like a chemical composition, that is one. One can study Kṛṣṇa by studying His personal propensities. Just like the characteristic of the father is manifested in the characteristic of the son, or the son's characteristic is manifested in the father, similarly, all the characteristics of Kṛṣṇa are with . . . are with us.


So I'll especially request your group to teach these confused boys passing as hippies. So many thousands of boys and girls, especially in America.
Indian man: ''Namaskāra''.


Devotee: Especially.
Prabhupāda: ''Aiye''.


Prabhupāda: Especially. Especially in our..., I have seen. So try to convince them. That is Kṛṣṇa's service. You, you are practically experienced from your past life to the Kṛṣṇa consciousness, so you can better convince them. So I will write to Sai, you also write, and combined together just try to reclaim these confused souls. That will be your service, great service. Don't be satisfied that "We have got now Kṛṣṇa. Our business is finished." No. You will reclaim your brothers, and that is greater service.
Indian man: They wanted to . . . (indistinct) . . . they, they said they wanted to go out of . . . (indistinct) . . . station, so I came just now because . . . (break)


So conjointly do it, and if Sai comes here, I shall also request him. We have got very, I mean to say, responsible task, on behalf of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, to reclaim these fallen souls. Do it. That will be very nice. Kṛṣṇa will be very much pleased.
Prabhupāda: . . . only, because we accepted Kṛṣṇa, ''guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja'' ([[vanisource:CC Madhya 19.151|CC Madhya 19.151]]). The devotional service . . . one can enter into the devotional service by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa and ''guru''. ''Guru-kṛṣṇa''. So one who is sincerely thinking of Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa gives him good spiritual master. And then, with the cooperation of spiritual master and Kṛṣṇa, the devotee becomes enhanced in spiritual life.
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Conversations and Morning Walks

1971 Conversations and Morning Walks

One can study Kṛṣṇa by studying His personal propensities. Just like the characteristic of the father is manifested in the characteristic of the son, or the son's characteristic is manifested in the father, similarly, all the characteristics of Kṛṣṇa are with..., are with us.


Prabhupāda: So it is very good that you have started the Kṛṣṇa Yoga Society. The name, name Kṛṣṇa was there; that has benefited you. Somehow or other, you developed some love for Kṛṣṇa. That has made you to come to us. That very conception that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord has benefited you. Only that qualification. So now you have come, you take it seriously, and according to regulative principle, then your life is perfect. But if Sai is still thinking of himself as God, that's not very good.

Devotee: I think he was only saying we should . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes. Nobody can be God.

Devotee: (indistinct) . . . He was never claiming that.

Prabhupāda: This is Māyāvāda.

Devotee: . . . we were following the Vedic injunction of . . . of treating the spiritual master . . .

Prabhupāda: We are, we are, we are in quality one with God. The substance as we are, the same as God. In that way we are not different, so far substance, just like a chemical composition, that is one. One can study Kṛṣṇa by studying His personal propensities. Just like the characteristic of the father is manifested in the characteristic of the son, or the son's characteristic is manifested in the father, similarly, all the characteristics of Kṛṣṇa are with . . . are with us.

Indian man: Namaskāra.

Prabhupāda: Aiye.

Indian man: They wanted to . . . (indistinct) . . . they, they said they wanted to go out of . . . (indistinct) . . . station, so I came just now because . . . (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . only, because we accepted Kṛṣṇa, guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja (CC Madhya 19.151). The devotional service . . . one can enter into the devotional service by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa and guru. Guru-kṛṣṇa. So one who is sincerely thinking of Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa gives him good spiritual master. And then, with the cooperation of spiritual master and Kṛṣṇa, the devotee becomes enhanced in spiritual life.