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On one hand he says that we don't want to be delivered from this material ocean, we just want to serve. Then in one of the other slokas he pleads with Krsna to deliver him from this ocean of death and fix him up as one of the atoms of His lotus feet: Difference between revisions

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<div class="heading">Na dhanaṁ na janam, mama janmani janmanīśvare bhavatād bhaktir ahaitukī. Let me be situated in Your service. This is the prayer. And another prayer is. Another, that "You simply fix me up as a dust on Your lotus feet." So in one śloka he says, "You fix me up as the dust of Your lotus," What is the difference? There is no difference.
<div class="heading">Na dhanaṁ na janam, mama janmani janmanīśvare bhavatād bhaktir ahaitukī. Let me be situated in Your service. This is the prayer. And another prayer is. Another, that "You simply fix me up as a dust on Your lotus feet." So in one śloka he says, "You fix me up as the dust of Your lotus," What is the difference? There is no difference.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 6.46-47 -- Los Angeles, February 21, 1969|Lecture on BG 6.46-47 -- Los Angeles, February 21, 1969]]: </span><div class="text">Devotee: Prabhupāda? Before this question was asked you were talking about the ślokas that Lord Caitanya left for us. I can't understand, on one hand he says that we don't want to be delivered from this material ocean, we just want to serve. Then in one of the other ślokas he pleads with Kṛṣṇa to deliver him from this ocean of death and fix him up as one of the atoms of His lotus feet. This seems to be a contradiction to me, I can't...
 
Prabhupāda: What is that contradiction. Please explain.
 
Devotee: Well, it seems like, you explained before that we shouldn't try to pray to be delivered from this material ocean. We should just try to serve Kṛṣṇa wherever we are. ...delivered from the ocean of death. Seems to be a plea to take him out of this material ocean.
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Prabhupāda: Na dhanaṁ na janam, mama janmani janmanīśvare bhavatād bhaktir ahaitukī. Let me be situated in Your service. This is the prayer. And another prayer is:
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:ayi nanda-tanuja kiṅkaraṁ
Devotee (2): Prabhupāda? Before this question was asked you were talking about the ''ślokas'' that Lord Caitanya left for us. I can't understand. On one hand He says that we don't want to be delivered from this material ocean, we just want to serve. Then in one of the other ''ślokas'' He pleads with Kṛṣṇa to deliver Him from this ocean of death and fix Him up as one of the atoms of His lotus feet. This seems to be a contradiction to me, I can't . . .
:patitaṁ māṁ viṣame bhavāmbudhau
 
:kṛpayā tava pāda-paṅkaja-
Prabhupāda: What is that contradiction? Please explain.
:sthita-dhūlī-sadṛśaṁ vicintaya.
 
(Cc. Antya 20.32, Śikṣāṣṭaka 5)
Devotee (2): Well, it seems like . . . you explained before that we shouldn't try to pray to be delivered from this material ocean. We should just try to serve Kṛṣṇa, wherever we are, and be delivered from the ocean of death. Seems to be a plea to take Him out of this material ocean.
Another, that "You simply fix me up as a dust on Your lotus feet." So in one śloka he says, "You fix me up as the dust of Your lotus," What is the difference? There is no difference.
 
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Prabhupāda: That ''na dhanaṁ na janam'', ''mama janmani janmanīśvare bhavatu me bhaktir ahaitukī'': "Let me situated in Your service." This is the prayer. And another prayer is:
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:''ayi nanda-tanuja''
:''patitaṁ kiṅkaraṁ māṁ viṣame bhavāmbudhau''
:''kṛpayā tava pāda-paṅkaja-''
:''sthita-dhūlī-sadṛśaṁ vicintaya''.
:([[Vanisource:CC Antya 20.32|CC Antya 20.32, Śikṣāṣṭaka 5]])
 
Another that, "You simply fix me up as a dust on Your lotus feet." So in one ''śloka'' He says: "You engage me in Your service"; in another ''śloka'' He says: "You fix me up as the dust of Your lotus . . ." What is the difference? There is no difference.

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" On one hand He says that we don't want to be delivered from this material ocean, we just want to serve. Then in one of the other ślokas He pleads with Kṛṣṇa to deliver Him from this ocean of death and fix Him up as one of the atoms of His lotus feet. This seems to be a contradiction"

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Na dhanaṁ na janam, mama janmani janmanīśvare bhavatād bhaktir ahaitukī. Let me be situated in Your service. This is the prayer. And another prayer is. Another, that "You simply fix me up as a dust on Your lotus feet." So in one śloka he says, "You fix me up as the dust of Your lotus," What is the difference? There is no difference.


Lecture on BG 6.46-47 -- Los Angeles, February 21, 1969:

Devotee (2): Prabhupāda? Before this question was asked you were talking about the ślokas that Lord Caitanya left for us. I can't understand. On one hand He says that we don't want to be delivered from this material ocean, we just want to serve. Then in one of the other ślokas He pleads with Kṛṣṇa to deliver Him from this ocean of death and fix Him up as one of the atoms of His lotus feet. This seems to be a contradiction to me, I can't . . .

Prabhupāda: What is that contradiction? Please explain.

Devotee (2): Well, it seems like . . . you explained before that we shouldn't try to pray to be delivered from this material ocean. We should just try to serve Kṛṣṇa, wherever we are, and be delivered from the ocean of death. Seems to be a plea to take Him out of this material ocean.

Prabhupāda: That na dhanaṁ na janam, mama janmani janmanīśvare bhavatu me bhaktir ahaitukī: "Let me situated in Your service." This is the prayer. And another prayer is:

ayi nanda-tanuja
patitaṁ kiṅkaraṁ māṁ viṣame bhavāmbudhau
kṛpayā tava pāda-paṅkaja-
sthita-dhūlī-sadṛśaṁ vicintaya.
(CC Antya 20.32, Śikṣāṣṭaka 5)

Another that, "You simply fix me up as a dust on Your lotus feet." So in one śloka He says: "You engage me in Your service"; in another śloka He says: "You fix me up as the dust of Your lotus . . ." What is the difference? There is no difference.