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Devotee (3): Often the devotee thinks that he's more unhappy than the karmīs because he knows he's unhappy.
Devotee (3): Often the devotee thinks that he's more unhappy than the ''karmīs'' because he knows he's unhappy.


Prabhupāda: Then that means he is not a devotee.
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Devotee (3): He's not a devotee.
Devotee (3): He's not a devotee.


Prabhupāda: Yes. He's not devotee. Devotee means the first sign will be happy, brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā ([[Vanisource:BG 18.54|BG 18.54]]). If he's not prasannātmā, he's a rascal. He has not entered even devotional life. He's outside. That is the test. Just like Dhruva Mahārāja. When he saw Viṣṇu: "Everything is all right. I don't want anything." Svāmin kṛtārtho 'smi ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 22.42|CC Madhya 22.42]]). That is Vaiṣṇava. And if he is still in want or unhappiness, that means he has no spiritual life at all. He is simply making a show.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He's not devotee. Devotee means the first sign will be happy, ''brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā'' ([[vanisource:BG 18.54 (1972)|BG 18.54]]). If he's not ''prasannātmā'', he's a rascal. He has not entered even devotional life. He's outside. That is the test. Just like Dhruva Mahārāja. When he saw Viṣṇu: "Everything is all right. I don't want anything." ''Svāmin kṛtārtho 'smi'' ([[vanisource:CC Madhya 22.42|CC Madhya 22.42]]). That is Vaiṣṇava. And if he is still in want or unhappiness, that means he has no spiritual life at all. He is simply making a show.


Gurukṛpā: Our unhappiness is our lamentation for our past sinful activity, and because we're not committing any more...
Gurukṛpā: Our unhappiness is our lamentation for our past sinful activity, and because we're not committing any more . . .


Prabhupāda: That is another. That is another. That is to remember the terrible condition of karmīs. (break)
Prabhupāda: That is another. That is another. That is to remember the terrible condition of ''karmīs''. (break)  


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Prabhupāda: ...devotee who thinks unhappy because he is thinking, "I am not getting tea. I am not getting cigarette. There is restriction of illicit life, no meat-eating..." In this way he is unhappy.
Prabhupāda: . . .devotee who thinks unhappy because he is thinking, "I am not getting tea. I am not getting cigarette. There is restriction of illicit life, no meat-eating . . ." In this way he is unhappy.


Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He cannot gratify his desire.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He cannot gratify his desire.


Prabhupāda: Yes. Real devotee will think, "Oh, so many botheration I have now given up." Anarthopaśamaṁ sākṣād bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje ([[Vanisource:SB 1.7.6|SB 1.7.6]]). Bhakti-yoga means upaśamam: "No more this, all this nonsense." That is bhakti-yoga, anartha-upaśamam, completely given up. Bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje, lokasya ajānato vidvāṁś cakre sātvata-saṁhitām. But they do not know it. They are increasing anartha. They have to give up cigarette? No, they are manufacturing new brand of cigarette and advertising, "Please come. This cigarette is better than the other." This is going on. This is karmī life. Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). He has no sense that "I have smoked this cigarette and why, after another cigarette, the same thing?" But no. "I have enjoyed sex here. Why another sex?" He has no sense.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Real devotee will think, "Oh, so many botheration I have now given up." ''Anarthopaśamaṁ sākṣād bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje'' ([[vanisource:SB 1.7.6|SB 1.7.6]]). ''Bhakti-yoga'' means ''upaśamam'': "No more this, all this nonsense." That is ''bhakti-yoga, anartha-upaśamam'', completely given up. ''Bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje, lokasya ajānato vidvāṁś cakre sātvata-saṁhitām''. But they do not know it. They are increasing ''anartha''. They have to give up cigarette? No, they are manufacturing new brand of cigarette and advertising, "Please come. This cigarette is better than the other." This is going on. This is ''karmī'' life. ''Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām'' ([[vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). He has no sense that "I have smoked this cigarette and why, after another cigarette, the same thing?" But no. "I have enjoyed sex here. Why another sex?" He has no sense.
 
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Available in every species of life also.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is ajñāna. Ajñāna-timirāndhasya (Śrī Guru praṇāma). This big house... (break) ...so that he will work hard. And he used to do that. You bring money and he'll spend. And if you say, "Sir, we collected this money for this purpose," "Yes," he spent. "You again collect." Somebody has paid that constructing temple, and he has spent for other purpose. Then, when the devotee will say, "Oh, what this man will say?" "That's all right. You collect again." (break) ...so he'll get some money, he'll make some arrangement for doll exhibition and spend the all money.
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"Often the devotee thinks that he's more unhappy than the karmīs because he knows he's unhappy"

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Then that means he is not a devotee. Devotee means the first sign will be happy, brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā (BG 18.54). If he's not prasannātmā, he's a rascal. He has not entered even devotional life. He's outside. That is the test. Just like Dhruva Mahārāja. When he saw Viṣṇu: "Everything is all right. I don't want anything." Svāmin kṛtārtho 'smi (CC Madhya 22.42). That is Vaiṣṇava. And if he is still in want or unhappiness, that means he has no spiritual life at all. He is simply making a show.


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Devotee (3): Often the devotee thinks that he's more unhappy than the karmīs because he knows he's unhappy.

Prabhupāda: Then that means he is not a devotee.

Devotee (3): He's not a devotee.

Prabhupāda: Yes. He's not devotee. Devotee means the first sign will be happy, brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā (BG 18.54). If he's not prasannātmā, he's a rascal. He has not entered even devotional life. He's outside. That is the test. Just like Dhruva Mahārāja. When he saw Viṣṇu: "Everything is all right. I don't want anything." Svāmin kṛtārtho 'smi (CC Madhya 22.42). That is Vaiṣṇava. And if he is still in want or unhappiness, that means he has no spiritual life at all. He is simply making a show.

Gurukṛpā: Our unhappiness is our lamentation for our past sinful activity, and because we're not committing any more . . .

Prabhupāda: That is another. That is another. That is to remember the terrible condition of karmīs. (break)

(in car)

Prabhupāda: . . .devotee who thinks unhappy because he is thinking, "I am not getting tea. I am not getting cigarette. There is restriction of illicit life, no meat-eating . . ." In this way he is unhappy.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He cannot gratify his desire.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Real devotee will think, "Oh, so many botheration I have now given up." Anarthopaśamaṁ sākṣād bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje (SB 1.7.6). Bhakti-yoga means upaśamam: "No more this, all this nonsense." That is bhakti-yoga, anartha-upaśamam, completely given up. Bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje, lokasya ajānato vidvāṁś cakre sātvata-saṁhitām. But they do not know it. They are increasing anartha. They have to give up cigarette? No, they are manufacturing new brand of cigarette and advertising, "Please come. This cigarette is better than the other." This is going on. This is karmī life. Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām (SB 7.5.30). He has no sense that "I have smoked this cigarette and why, after another cigarette, the same thing?" But no. "I have enjoyed sex here. Why another sex?" He has no sense.

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