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<div class="heading">We don't say like that. We say that "Here is the remedy for rectifying your suffering, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Come to it." We don't say that "You suffer." We say, "Stop your suffering in this way." Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya (BG 4.9). We are also trying to stop that suffering. But the ordinary people, they do not know how to stop it. Just like the United Nations. They are united, to mitigate the sufferings of the whole human... What they have done? Simply like barking in that assembly with... You go on suffering. Stop suffering. So you must know first of all how sufferings can be stopped. Then you do this, needful. Otherwise, what is the use if you do not know the method? Here is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam (BG 8.15). I think you have read Bhagavad-gītā.
<div class="heading">We don't say like that. We say that "Here is the remedy for rectifying your suffering, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Come to it." We don't say that "You suffer." We say, "Stop your suffering in this way." Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya (BG 4.9). We are also trying to stop that suffering. But the ordinary people, they do not know how to stop it. Just like the United Nations. They are united, to mitigate the sufferings of the whole human... What they have done? Simply like barking in that assembly with... You go on suffering. Stop suffering. So you must know first of all how sufferings can be stopped. Then you do this, needful. Otherwise, what is the use if you do not know the method? Here is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam (BG 8.15). I think you have read Bhagavad-gītā.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Ram Jethmalani: No, she has not done anything.</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now they are declaring... Our Mrs. Gandhi also said, daridra-anadha.(?) Then what she has done?</p>
<p>Ram Jethmalani: No, she has not done anything.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, now she is adha(?). So who is doing this? You are completely under the laws of nature. You cannot violate. If you are tied up, hands and legs, what you can do? First of all liberate yourself. Then talk of liberating others.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, now she is adha(?). So who is doing this? You are completely under the laws of nature. You cannot violate. If you are tied up, hands and legs, what you can do? First of all liberate yourself. Then talk of liberating others.</p>
<p>Ram Jethmalani: But when you see so much of physical suffering around...</p>
<p>Ram Jethmalani: But when you see so much of physical suffering around...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But what you can do? That is my... It is very good, sympathetic.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But what you can do? That is my... It is very good, sympathetic.</p>
<p>Ram Jethmalani: Is it right to tell the suffering that "I am busy, at work for my salvation"?</p>
<p>Ram Jethmalani: Is it right to tell the suffering that "I am busy, at work for my salvation"?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We don't say like that. We say that "Here is the remedy for rectifying your suffering, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Come to it." We don't say that "You suffer." We say, "Stop your suffering in this way." Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9|BG 4.9]]). We are also trying to stop that suffering. But the ordinary people, they do not know how to stop it. Just like the United Nations. They are united, to mitigate the sufferings of the whole human... What they have done? Simply like barking in that assembly with... You go on suffering. Stop suffering. So you must know first of all how sufferings can be stopped. Then you do this, needful. Otherwise, what is the use if you do not know the method? Here is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15|BG 8.15]]). I think you have read Bhagavad-gītā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We don't say like that. We say that "Here is the remedy for rectifying your suffering, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Come to it." We don't say that "You suffer." We say, "Stop your suffering in this way." Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). We are also trying to stop that suffering. But the ordinary people, they do not know how to stop it. Just like the United Nations. They are united, to mitigate the sufferings of the whole human... What they have done? Simply like barking in that assembly with... You go on suffering. Stop suffering. So you must know first of all how sufferings can be stopped. Then you do this, needful. Otherwise, what is the use if you do not know the method? Here is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15 (1972)|BG 8.15]]). I think you have read Bhagavad-gītā.</p>
<p>Ram Jethmalani: Oh, yes, but...</p>
<p>Ram Jethmalani: Oh, yes, but...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Here is, here is... Find out this verse. Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam, nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ. This is real mitigation of suffering. This is... The world is suffering.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Here is, here is... Find out this verse. Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam, nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ. This is real mitigation of suffering. This is... The world is suffering.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:</p>
:mām upetya punar janma
:duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam
<p>nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ</p>
<p>saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ</p>
:([[Vanisource:BG 8.15|BG 8.15]])
<p>Prabhupāda: This is mitigation of suffering. Mām upetya. Read it again.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:</p>
<p>mām upetya punar janma</p>
<p>duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam</p>
:([[Vanisource:BG 8.15|BG 8.15]])
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1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

We don't say like that. We say that "Here is the remedy for rectifying your suffering, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Come to it." We don't say that "You suffer." We say, "Stop your suffering in this way." Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya (BG 4.9). We are also trying to stop that suffering. But the ordinary people, they do not know how to stop it. Just like the United Nations. They are united, to mitigate the sufferings of the whole human... What they have done? Simply like barking in that assembly with... You go on suffering. Stop suffering. So you must know first of all how sufferings can be stopped. Then you do this, needful. Otherwise, what is the use if you do not know the method? Here is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam (BG 8.15). I think you have read Bhagavad-gītā.
Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay:

Prabhupāda: Now they are declaring... Our Mrs. Gandhi also said, daridra-anadha.(?) Then what she has done?

Ram Jethmalani: No, she has not done anything.

Prabhupāda: No, no, now she is adha(?). So who is doing this? You are completely under the laws of nature. You cannot violate. If you are tied up, hands and legs, what you can do? First of all liberate yourself. Then talk of liberating others.

Ram Jethmalani: But when you see so much of physical suffering around...

Prabhupāda: But what you can do? That is my... It is very good, sympathetic.

Ram Jethmalani: Is it right to tell the suffering that "I am busy, at work for my salvation"?

Prabhupāda: We don't say like that. We say that "Here is the remedy for rectifying your suffering, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Come to it." We don't say that "You suffer." We say, "Stop your suffering in this way." Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya (BG 4.9). We are also trying to stop that suffering. But the ordinary people, they do not know how to stop it. Just like the United Nations. They are united, to mitigate the sufferings of the whole human... What they have done? Simply like barking in that assembly with... You go on suffering. Stop suffering. So you must know first of all how sufferings can be stopped. Then you do this, needful. Otherwise, what is the use if you do not know the method? Here is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam (BG 8.15). I think you have read Bhagavad-gītā.

Ram Jethmalani: Oh, yes, but...

Prabhupāda: Here is, here is... Find out this verse. Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam, nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ. This is real mitigation of suffering. This is... The world is suffering.

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