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| {{terms|"In what way is the external manifestation of the guru different than the external manifestation of, let us say, Krsna or Caitanya when They come to earth"}} | | {{terms|"In what way is the external manifestation of the ''guru'' different than the external manifestation of, let us say, Kṛṣṇa or Caitanya when They come to earth"}} |
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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div class="heading">Guru is one, representative of Kṛṣṇa. So there are symptoms who is guru. The general symptoms are described in the Vedas. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ gurum evābhigacchet, śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham (MU 1.2.12). The first symptom is śrotriyam. Guru is in disciplic succession. One who has thoroughly heard about the Vedas through his spiritual master. | | <div class="heading">Guru is one, representative of Kṛṣṇa. So there are symptoms who is guru. The general symptoms are described in the Vedas. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ gurum evābhigacchet, śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham (MU 1.2.12). The first symptom is śrotriyam. Guru is in disciplic succession. One who has thoroughly heard about the Vedas through his spiritual master. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura|Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bob: The guru should be accepted as representative of God?</p> | | |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, guru is representative. Guru is the external manifestation of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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| <p>Bob: But different than, like the incarnations of Kṛṣṇa that come?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura|Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| <p>Bob: In what way is the external manifestation of the guru different than the external manifestation of, let us say, Kṛṣṇa or Caitanya when They come to earth.</p>
| | Bob: The ''guru'' should be accepted as representative of God? |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Guru is one, representative of Kṛṣṇa. So there are symptoms who is guru. The general symptoms are described in the Vedas. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ gurum evābhigacchet, śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham (MU 1.2.12). The first symptom is śrotriyam. Guru is in disciplic succession. One who has thoroughly heard about the Vedas through his spiritual master. This is general description. So another description is in the Bhāgavatam:</p>
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| :tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta | | Prabhupāda: Yes, ''guru'' is representative. ''Guru'' is the external manifestation of Kṛṣṇa. |
| :jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam | | |
| :śabde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ | | Bob: But different than . . . like the incarnations of Kṛṣṇa that come? |
| :brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam | | |
| :([[Vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]]) | | Prabhupāda: Yes. |
| <p>Generally, the guru's symptom is that he's a perfect devotee. That's all. And he's serving Kṛṣṇa by preaching His message.</p>
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| | Bob: In what way is the external manifestation of the ''guru'' different than the external manifestation of, let us say, Kṛṣṇa or Caitanya when They come to earth. |
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| | Prabhupāda: ''Guru'' is one, representative of Kṛṣṇa. So there are symptoms who is ''guru''. The general symptoms are described in the ''Vedas'': ''tad-vijñānārthaṁ gurum evābhigacchet, śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham'' (MU 1.2.12). The first symptom is ''śrotriyam''. ''Guru'' is in disciplic succession: one who has thoroughly heard about the Vedas through his spiritual master. This is general description. So another description is in the ''Bhāgavatam'': |
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| | :''tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta'' |
| | :''jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam'' |
| | :''śabde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ'' |
| | :''brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam'' |
| | :([[vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]]) |
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| | Generally, the ''guru's'' symptom is that he's a perfect devotee. That's all. And he's serving Kṛṣṇa by preaching His message. |
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