Kīrtanānanda: ...on a local television soon. That will be very good propaganda for us.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is shown? Or no, not yet.
Kīrtanānanda: Not yet.
Prabhupāda: One thing you have missed: how we are preparing all these foodstuffs.
Kīrtanānanda: It was too short. In the movie? It was too short how to prepare it?
Prabhupāda: Yes. How from milk in different stages you get this foodstuff, kacuris, śṛṅgāra,(?) sandeśa, rābṛi. And this chānā, if fried, if you prepare nicely with little hing and ginger, then it will exactly taste like meat. They'll forget. If you give them without telling them, they will think that they're eating meat.
Kīrtanānanda: Hing and what? Prepare with hing and?
Prabhupāda: Ginger.
Kīrtanānanda: Ginger.
Prabhupāda: They prepare the semiliquid meat like that. You give them little piece and they will not understand that it is not meat.
Hari-śauri: When we were in Los Angeles, Pālikā made some baṛā and it tasted... Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa Mahārāja wouldn't eat it. He said it tasted too much like fish.
Prabhupāda: With urad ḍāl, you can prepare fishy taste.
Hari-śauri: Someone told me that your Guru Mahārāja said that.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Yes. Anyone who is not taking urad ḍāl, he must be taking fish silently, secretly. (break)