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<div class="heading">These people are twenty-four hours chanting Kṛṣṇa, and another person who has no, not a single word Kṛṣṇa, how he can become devotee of Kṛṣṇa? How he can become representative of Kṛṣṇa, who does not utter even the name of Kṛṣṇa? If Kṛṣṇa is authority accepted, therefore who are directly addicted to Kṛṣṇa, they are authorities.
<div class="heading">These people are twenty-four hours chanting Kṛṣṇa, and another person who has no, not a single word Kṛṣṇa, how he can become devotee of Kṛṣṇa? How he can become representative of Kṛṣṇa, who does not utter even the name of Kṛṣṇa? If Kṛṣṇa is authority accepted, therefore who are directly addicted to Kṛṣṇa, they are authorities.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation With John Lennon, Yoko Ono, and George Harrison -- September 11, 1969, London, At Tittenhurst|Room Conversation With John Lennon, Yoko Ono, and George Harrison -- September 11, 1969, London, At Tittenhurst]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gurudāsa: So you see many devotees of the authority, and then you decide which is the most sincere devotee. And just like in the ninth chapter He says, "You will come to Me." Now, if I asked you for a glass of water and you poured it on the wall, I'd think you were silly. But if you brought it to me, then I knew you were in knowledge, we were having a reciprocal relationship. Therefore, if the devotee is saying, "Worship Kṛṣṇa," and not putting so much of his own ideas in, but just saying, "Worship Kṛṣṇa," all throughout, as Swamiji does, then you can know he's a sincere devotee.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. One thing you try to understand. Why these people, if Kṛṣṇa is not the supreme authority, why they are taking Kṛṣṇa's book and translating? Why don't you try to understand?</p>
 
<p>George Harrison: I'm not saying Kṛṣṇa isn't the Supreme. I believe that.</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. I mean to say, even there are other sects, as you say, Maharsi. They accept also indirectly Kṛṣṇa as the supreme authority. Because if we say Maharsi belongs to Śaṅkara sampradāya...</p>
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<p>George Harrison: Yeah, but we had a misunderstanding before about the translation of the Sanskrit Gītā into English, and I was saying that there's many versions, and I think we thought you were trying to say that your version, your translation, was the only authority and that the other translations... But we didn't really have understanding as to the identity of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
Gurudāsa: So you see many devotees of the authority, and then you decide which is the most sincere devotee. And just like in the Ninth Chapter He says: "You will come to Me." Now, if I asked you for a glass of water and you poured it on the wall, I'd think you were silly. But if you brought it to me, then I knew you were in knowledge, we were having a reciprocal relationship. Therefore, if the devotee is saying: "Worship Kṛṣṇa," and not putting so much of his own ideas in, but just saying: "Worship Kṛṣṇa," all throughout, as Swāmījī does, then you can know he's a sincere devotee.
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right. If you believe Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord, if that is your version, then you have to see who are much addicted to Kṛṣṇa directly. For argument's sake. That these people are twenty-four hours chanting Kṛṣṇa, and another person who has no, not a single word Kṛṣṇa, how he can become devotee of Kṛṣṇa? How he can become representative of Kṛṣṇa, who does not utter even the name of Kṛṣṇa? If Kṛṣṇa is authority accepted, therefore who are directly addicted to Kṛṣṇa, they are authorities. (Kīrtanas follow, George Harrison leading) (end)</p>
 
Prabhupāda: Now, one thing you try to understand. Why these people, if Kṛṣṇa is not the supreme authority, why they are taking ''Kṛṣṇa's'' book and translating? Why don't you try to understand?
 
George Harrison: I'm not saying Kṛṣṇa isn't the Supreme. I believe that.
 
Prabhupāda: No, no. I mean to say, even there are other sects, as you say, Maharshi, they accept also indirectly Kṛṣṇa as the supreme authority. Because if we say Maharshi belongs to Śaṅkara ''sampradāya'', you said just like . . .
 
George Harrison: Yeah, but we had a misunderstanding before about the translation of the Sanskrit ''Gītā'' into English, and I was saying that there's many versions, and I think we thought you were trying to say that your version, your translation, was the only authority, and that the other translations . . . but we didn't really have misunderstanding as to the identity of Kṛṣṇa.
 
Prabhupāda: That's all right. If you believe Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord, if that is your version, then you have to see who are much addicted to Kṛṣṇa directly. For argument's sake. That these people, they are twenty-four hours chanting "Kṛṣṇa," and another person who has no, not a single word "Kṛṣṇa," how he can become devotee of Kṛṣṇa?  
 
How he can become representative of Kṛṣṇa, who does not utter even the name of Kṛṣṇa? If Kṛṣṇa is authority accepted, therefore who are directly addicted to Kṛṣṇa, they are authorities. (break) (end)</p>
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Conversations and Morning Walks

1969 Conversations and Morning Walks

These people are twenty-four hours chanting Kṛṣṇa, and another person who has no, not a single word Kṛṣṇa, how he can become devotee of Kṛṣṇa? How he can become representative of Kṛṣṇa, who does not utter even the name of Kṛṣṇa? If Kṛṣṇa is authority accepted, therefore who are directly addicted to Kṛṣṇa, they are authorities.


Room Conversation With John Lennon, Yoko Ono, and George Harrison -- September 11, 1969, London, At Tittenhurst:

Gurudāsa: So you see many devotees of the authority, and then you decide which is the most sincere devotee. And just like in the Ninth Chapter He says: "You will come to Me." Now, if I asked you for a glass of water and you poured it on the wall, I'd think you were silly. But if you brought it to me, then I knew you were in knowledge, we were having a reciprocal relationship. Therefore, if the devotee is saying: "Worship Kṛṣṇa," and not putting so much of his own ideas in, but just saying: "Worship Kṛṣṇa," all throughout, as Swāmījī does, then you can know he's a sincere devotee.

Prabhupāda: Now, one thing you try to understand. Why these people, if Kṛṣṇa is not the supreme authority, why they are taking Kṛṣṇa's book and translating? Why don't you try to understand?

George Harrison: I'm not saying Kṛṣṇa isn't the Supreme. I believe that.

Prabhupāda: No, no. I mean to say, even there are other sects, as you say, Maharshi, they accept also indirectly Kṛṣṇa as the supreme authority. Because if we say Maharshi belongs to Śaṅkara sampradāya, you said just like . . .

George Harrison: Yeah, but we had a misunderstanding before about the translation of the Sanskrit Gītā into English, and I was saying that there's many versions, and I think we thought you were trying to say that your version, your translation, was the only authority, and that the other translations . . . but we didn't really have misunderstanding as to the identity of Kṛṣṇa.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. If you believe Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord, if that is your version, then you have to see who are much addicted to Kṛṣṇa directly. For argument's sake. That these people, they are twenty-four hours chanting "Kṛṣṇa," and another person who has no, not a single word "Kṛṣṇa," how he can become devotee of Kṛṣṇa?

How he can become representative of Kṛṣṇa, who does not utter even the name of Kṛṣṇa? If Kṛṣṇa is authority accepted, therefore who are directly addicted to Kṛṣṇa, they are authorities. (break) (end)