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| {{terms|"He never claimed that"|"I am avatara"|"But we understand from the sastric evidence. He never claimed. Rather, when He was addressed as Krsna He blocked His ears"}} | | {{terms|"He never claimed that"|"I am ''avatāra''"|"But we understand from the śāstric evidence. He never claimed. Rather, when He was addressed as Kṛṣṇa He blocked His ears"}} |
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| [[Vanisource:760913 - Conversation - Vrndavana|760913 - Conversation - Vrndavana]] | | [[Vanisource:760913 - Conversation - Vrndavana|760913 - Conversation - Vrndavana]] |
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| Prabhupāda: "...the Supreme Person with full power. That is misleading. You can show a little magic, as other magicians also can show..." | | Prabhupāda: ". . . the Supreme Person with full power. That is misleading. You can show a little magic, as other magicians also can show . . ." |
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| Pradyumna: "You can show a little magic, as other magicians can also show." | | Pradyumna: "You can show a little magic, as other magicians can also show." |
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| Prabhupāda: "...but you cannot show the full magic, as Kṛṣṇa displayed or Lord Rāmacandra displayed. Therefore your claim as a full power is completely false and blasphemous." | | Prabhupāda: ". . . but you cannot show the full magic, as Kṛṣṇa displayed or Lord Rāmacandra displayed. Therefore your claim as a full power is completely false and blasphemous." |
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| Pradyumna: "Therefore your claim for full power is completely false..." | | Pradyumna: "Therefore your claim for full power is completely false . . ." |
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| Prabhupāda: "...and blasphemous." In this way find out. | | Prabhupāda: ". . . and blasphemous." In this way find out. |
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| Pradyumna: Completely Māyāvādī. | | Pradyumna: Completely Māyāvādī. |
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| Prabhupāda: Yes. | | Prabhupāda: Yes. |
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| Pradyumna: Now someone may bring up the one point, they say, "Well, if an avatāra comes, if He must show all kinds of great opulences and powers," then he says, "sometimes the incarnation shows this, but sometimes, like when Lord Caitanya appeared, He didn't show viśvarūpa or..." | | Pradyumna: Now someone may bring up the one point, they say: "Well, if an ''avatāra'' comes, if He must show all kinds of great opulences and powers," then he says: "sometimes the incarnation shows this, but sometimes, like when Lord Caitanya appeared, He didn't show ''viśvarūpa'' or . . ." |
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| Prabhupāda: But He never claimed that "I am avatāra." But we understand from the śāstric evidence. He never claimed. Rather, when He was addressed as Kṛṣṇa He blocked His ears, "You don't say like that." He never claimed. He fully displayed Himself as a devotee, not Bhagavān. Therefore Gaurāṅgavāda is illegal. Gaurāṅga-nāgarī. That is illegal. Moha-vāda or something like that. | | Prabhupāda: But He never claimed that "I am ''avatāra''." But we understand from the śāstric evidence. He never claimed. Rather, when He was addressed as Kṛṣṇa He blocked His ears, "You don't say like that." He never claimed. He fully displayed Himself as a devotee, not Bhagavān. Therefore Gaurāṅgavāda is illegal. ''Gaurāṅga-nāgarī''. That is illegal. ''Moha-vāda'' or something like that. |
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| Pradyumna: Gaurāṅga-nāgarī, mentioning Lord Caitanya in the role of Kṛṣṇa dancing with the... | | Pradyumna: ''Gaurāṅga-nāgarī'', mentioning Lord Caitanya in the role of Kṛṣṇa dancing with the . . . |
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| Prabhupāda: In this way, find out the faulty statement and give him proof. He can claim... Hmm. That's all. | | Prabhupāda: In this way, find out the faulty statement and give him proof. He can claim . . . hmm. That's all. |
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