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<div class="heading">So God is never dead. Kṛṣṇa is never dead, as some of the modern philosophers, they are putting forward the philosophy of "God is dead." God is dead for those who are following the owl philosophy. Owl has never seen sun, or it does not like to see the sun. Therefore the owl says, "There is no sun." Similarly, the atheistic philosophy is... There are so many logic. Just like the owl philosophy, the frog philosophy, the camel philosophy and the dog philosophy, the hog philosophy—there are so many philosophies.
<div class="heading">So God is never dead. Kṛṣṇa is never dead, as some of the modern philosophers, they are putting forward the philosophy of "God is dead." God is dead for those who are following the owl philosophy. Owl has never seen sun, or it does not like to see the sun. Therefore the owl says, "There is no sun." Similarly, the atheistic philosophy is... There are so many logic. Just like the owl philosophy, the frog philosophy, the camel philosophy and the dog philosophy, the hog philosophy—there are so many philosophies.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.391-405 -- New York, January 2, 1967|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.391-405 -- New York, January 2, 1967]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p>
 
:aiche kṛṣṇera līlā-maṇḍala caudda-manvantare
 
:brahmāṇḍa-maṇḍala vyāpi' krame krame phire
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<p>So we have already discussed how kṛṣṇa-līlā, or the pastimes, different manifestation of Kṛṣṇa's pastimes during one hundred and twenty-five years, beginning from His birth up to the disappearance, as many pastimes there are, they are being manifested in some of the universe, out of the innumerable universes. So God is never dead. Kṛṣṇa is never dead, as some of the modern philosophers, they are putting forward the philosophy of "God is dead." God is dead for those who are following the owl philosophy. Owl has never seen sun, or it does not like to see the sun. Therefore the owl says, "There is no sun." Similarly, the atheistic philosophy is... There are so many logic. Just like the owl philosophy, the frog philosophy, the camel philosophy and the dog philosophy, the hog philosophy—there are so many philosophies. So only the persons who are, who have got two hands and two legs, but they are counted amongst the animals. And therefore they cannot think of the eternal, blissful existence of the Supreme Lord at all times.</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.391-405 -- New York, January 2, 1967|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.391-405 -- New York, January 2, 1967]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
<p>So premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena (Bs. 5.38). If one takes to this philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness and develops love of Godhead, then he can see God at every moment, in every step, in every thing. He's not, for a single moment, is out of the sight of God. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, teṣu te mayi. The devotee who has love, who has developed love for God, he's also seeing God at every moment. Similarly, God is also seeing him at every moment. They are not separated. So simple process. This hari-kīrtana, this is the simple process recommended in this age, and if we sincerely do it without any offense and with faith, then seeing of God is not difficult for a devotee.</p>
Prabhupāda:
<p>So,</p>
 
:kona brahmāṇḍe kona līlāra haya avasthāna
:''aiche kṛṣṇera līlā-maṇḍala caudda-manvantare''
:tāte līlā 'nitya' kahe āgama-purāṇa
:''brahmāṇḍa-maṇḍala vyāpi' krame krame phire''
<p>So similarly, in some of the brahmāṇḍas, or universes, there is already present Kṛṣṇa-līlā; Kṛṣṇa is there.</p>
:([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 20.391]])
<p>There is another Bengali verse, very nicely:</p>
 
:adya 'pi akāri līlā gaura-rāya
So we have already discussed how ''kṛṣṇa-līlā'', or the pastimes, different manifestation of Kṛṣṇa's pastimes during one hundred and twenty-five years, beginning from His birth up to the disappearance, as many pastimes there are, they are being manifested in some of the universe, out of the innumerable universes.  
:kona kona bhagavane dekhibāre pāya
 
<p>Lord Caitanya's pastimes going on, still going on, but some of the fortunate devotees, they can see. Anything, God's pastimes, that is perceivable through devotional service. Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55|BG 18.55]]). Only way. This is the process. No other process. No amount of speculation, no amount of academic education, no amount of philosophical discussion can..., one can... It is confirmed in the Vedic literature: nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, na bahunā śrutena. Na ayam ātmā... This self-realization is not possible. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, simply by discussion, nobody can arrive. Nobody can understand what is self-realization, what is Supreme Soul, the Absolute Truth. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena, na medhayā. Medhayā means one who is, who has got very good brain substance, he also cannot. Simply by agitating the brain, brain substance, one cannot understand. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, na bahunā śrutena, na medhayā. Śrutena, one who is highly educated, very good scholar, he also cannot understand. Then, what is the pro...? Janena saba puruṣe tena labhya: a person to whom God reveals Himself, he can understand. So we have to wait for that and for God's mercy. We have to be engaged in loving, transcendental service, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then He'll reveal.</p>
So God is never dead. Kṛṣṇa is never dead, as some of the modern philosophers, they are putting forward the philosophy of "God is dead." God is dead for those who are following the owl philosophy. Owl has never seen sun, or it does not like to see the sun. Therefore the owl says: "There is no sun." Similarly, the atheistic philosophy is . . . there are so many logic.  
<p>goloka, gokula-dhāma-'vibhu' kṛṣṇa-sama</p>
 
:kṛṣṇecchāya brahmāṇḍa-gaṇe tāhāra saṅkrama
Just like the owl philosophy, the frog philosophy, the camel philosophy and the dog philosophy, the hog philosophy—there are so many philosophies. (laughter) So only the persons who are . . . who have got two hands and two legs, but they are counted amongst the animals. And therefore they cannot think of the eternal, blissful existence of the Supreme Lord at all times. So ''premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena'' ([[Vanisource:Bs. 5.38|Bs. 5.38]]).  
:([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 20.396|CC Madhya 20.396]])
 
<p>Now, gokula, gokula dhāma-'vibhu' kṛṣṇa-sama. Because the Lord is absolute, therefore His name, His fame, His qualities, His form, His associates, His paraphernalia—everything absolute, nondifferent. God and God's name, nondifferent. God and God's place, nondifferent. And for that reason, when Kṛṣṇa comes, the Absolute, the Vṛndāvana, the place where He descends, that is nondifferent. Actually you can see that, that Vṛndāvana-dhāma, that place is a small spot of land, say about eighty-four miles area, but any person, and however atheistic he may be, and however nonsense he may be, if he goes to that place, he'll feel Kṛṣṇa's presence. Still. Still, simply by going there, he'll at once change his mind that "Here is God." He'll accept it. Still. If you like, you can go to India and you can see, make an experiment. So, although Vṛndāvana is a, is a place for the personalists, now all the impersonalists school of India, they're making their āśrama at Vṛndāvana because they have failed to achieve the sense of God anywhere, they are coming to Vṛndāvana. It is such a nice place. Here Lord Caitanya says that goloka, gokula-dhāma-'vibhu' kṛṣṇa-sama. Just like Kṛṣṇa is unlimited, similarly, His place is also unlimited. It is not limited by the material laws. Similarly, His name is unlimited. When you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, the Hare Kṛṣṇa, this name, the holy name, has got unlimited potency. Simply you have to realize it. Even God is present before us, we cannot realize it. When Kṛṣṇa was present before us on this earth, not that all people of the world or all people of India could recognize. Only few people—the Pāṇḍavas and the inhabitants of Vṛndāvana, inhabitants of Dvārakā, some of them could understand. So it requires training only. Otherwise, the unlimited God can be seen even within this limited sphere of material existence.</p>
If one takes to this philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness and develops love of Godhead, then he can see God at every moment, in every step, in every thing. He's not, for a single moment, is out of the sight of God. Just like in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is said, ''teṣu te mayi'' ([[Vanisource:BG 9.29 (1972)|BG 9.29]]). The devotee who has loved, who has developed love for God, he's also seeing God at every moment.  
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Similarly, God is also seeing him at every moment. They are not separated. So simple process. This ''hari-kīrtana'', this is the simple process recommended in this age, and if we sincerely do it without any offense and with faith, then seeing of God is not difficult for a devotee. So:
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:''kona brahmāṇḍe kona līlāra haya avasthāna''
:''tāte līlā 'nitya' kahe āgama-purāṇa''
:([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 20.395|CC Madhya 20.395]])
 
So similarly, in some of the ''brahmāṇḍas'', or universes, there is already present ''kṛṣṇa-līlā''; Kṛṣṇa is there. There is another Bengali verse, very nicely:
 
:''adya 'pi akāri līlā gaura-rāya''
:''kona kona bhagavane dekhibāre pāya''
 
Lord Caitanya's pastime is going on, still going on, but some of the fortunate devotees, they can see. Anything, God's pastime, that is perceivable through devotional service. ''Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti'' ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]).  
 
Only. This is the process. No other process. No amount of speculation, no amount of academic education, no amount of philosophical discussion can . . . one can . . . it is confirmed in the Vedic literature: ''nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, na bahudhā śrutena'' (''Kaṭha Upaniṣad'' 1.2.23).
 
''Na ayam ātmā'' . . . this self-realization is not possible. ''Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya'', simply by discussing, nobody can arrive. Nobody can understand what is self-realization, what is Supreme Soul, the Absolute Truth. ''Nāyam ātmā pravacanena, na medhayā''. ''Medhayā'' means one who is very . . . who has got very good brain substance, he also cannot.  
 
Simply by agitating the brain, brain substance, one cannot understand. ''Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, na bahunā śrutena, na medhayā. Śrutena'', one who is highly educated, very good scholar, he also cannot understand. Then, what is the pro . . .?  
 
''Janena saba puruṣe tena labhya'': a person to whom God reveals Himself, he can understand. So we have to wait for that, and for God's mercy. We have to be engaged in loving, transcendental service, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then He'll reveal.</p>

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Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures

So God is never dead. Kṛṣṇa is never dead, as some of the modern philosophers, they are putting forward the philosophy of "God is dead." God is dead for those who are following the owl philosophy. Owl has never seen sun, or it does not like to see the sun. Therefore the owl says, "There is no sun." Similarly, the atheistic philosophy is... There are so many logic. Just like the owl philosophy, the frog philosophy, the camel philosophy and the dog philosophy, the hog philosophy—there are so many philosophies.


Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.391-405 -- New York, January 2, 1967:

Prabhupāda:

aiche kṛṣṇera līlā-maṇḍala caudda-manvantare
brahmāṇḍa-maṇḍala vyāpi' krame krame phire
(Vanisource:CC Madhya 20.391)

So we have already discussed how kṛṣṇa-līlā, or the pastimes, different manifestation of Kṛṣṇa's pastimes during one hundred and twenty-five years, beginning from His birth up to the disappearance, as many pastimes there are, they are being manifested in some of the universe, out of the innumerable universes.

So God is never dead. Kṛṣṇa is never dead, as some of the modern philosophers, they are putting forward the philosophy of "God is dead." God is dead for those who are following the owl philosophy. Owl has never seen sun, or it does not like to see the sun. Therefore the owl says: "There is no sun." Similarly, the atheistic philosophy is . . . there are so many logic.

Just like the owl philosophy, the frog philosophy, the camel philosophy and the dog philosophy, the hog philosophy—there are so many philosophies. (laughter) So only the persons who are . . . who have got two hands and two legs, but they are counted amongst the animals. And therefore they cannot think of the eternal, blissful existence of the Supreme Lord at all times. So premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena (Bs. 5.38).

If one takes to this philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness and develops love of Godhead, then he can see God at every moment, in every step, in every thing. He's not, for a single moment, is out of the sight of God. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, teṣu te mayi (BG 9.29). The devotee who has loved, who has developed love for God, he's also seeing God at every moment.

Similarly, God is also seeing him at every moment. They are not separated. So simple process. This hari-kīrtana, this is the simple process recommended in this age, and if we sincerely do it without any offense and with faith, then seeing of God is not difficult for a devotee. So:

kona brahmāṇḍe kona līlāra haya avasthāna
tāte līlā 'nitya' kahe āgama-purāṇa
(CC Madhya 20.395)

So similarly, in some of the brahmāṇḍas, or universes, there is already present kṛṣṇa-līlā; Kṛṣṇa is there. There is another Bengali verse, very nicely:

adya 'pi akāri līlā gaura-rāya
kona kona bhagavane dekhibāre pāya

Lord Caitanya's pastime is going on, still going on, but some of the fortunate devotees, they can see. Anything, God's pastime, that is perceivable through devotional service. Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti (BG 18.55).

Only. This is the process. No other process. No amount of speculation, no amount of academic education, no amount of philosophical discussion can . . . one can . . . it is confirmed in the Vedic literature: nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, na bahudhā śrutena (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 1.2.23).

Na ayam ātmā . . . this self-realization is not possible. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, simply by discussing, nobody can arrive. Nobody can understand what is self-realization, what is Supreme Soul, the Absolute Truth. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena, na medhayā. Medhayā means one who is very . . . who has got very good brain substance, he also cannot.

Simply by agitating the brain, brain substance, one cannot understand. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhya, na bahunā śrutena, na medhayā. Śrutena, one who is highly educated, very good scholar, he also cannot understand. Then, what is the pro . . .?

Janena saba puruṣe tena labhya: a person to whom God reveals Himself, he can understand. So we have to wait for that, and for God's mercy. We have to be engaged in loving, transcendental service, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then He'll reveal.