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| {{terms|"God and we, we are all individuals. But the difference is that He's nityo nityanam. Nityanam means plural number. Nityo nityanam. Nityo is singular number, and nityanam means plural number. We are all plural number"}} | | {{terms|"God and we, we are all individuals. But the difference is that He's ''nityo nityānāṁ''. ''Nityānāṁ'' means plural number. ''Nityo nityānāṁ. Nityo'' is singular number, and ''nityānāṁ'' means plural number"}} |
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| [[Vanisource:730305 - Lecture BG 02.12 - Calcutta|730305 - Lecture BG 02.12 - Calcutta]] | | [[Vanisource:730305 - Lecture BG 02.12 - Calcutta|730305 - Lecture BG 02.12 - Calcutta]] |
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| We are all individual souls. That we existed as individual souls in the past, and we are existing now. There is no question of… At the present, any one of us, we have got our individual opinion. Why I differ from your opinion? Why you differ from my opinion? Why you have got your own ideas, I have got my own ideas? I don’t agree, or agree with you? These are all individual things. That is not a homogenous amalgamation. The individuality is maintained, eternally. | | We are all individual souls. That we existed as individual souls in the past, and we are existing now. There is no question of… At the present, any one of us, we have got our individual opinion. Why I differ from your opinion? Why you differ from my opinion? Why you have got your own ideas, I have got my own ideas? I don’t agree, or agree with you? These are all individual things. That is not a homogenous amalgamation. The individuality is maintained, eternally. |
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| Nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām/ eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān, tam ātma-sthaṁ (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). | | ''Nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām''/ ''eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān'', ''tam ātma-sthaṁ'' (''Kaṭha Upaniṣad'' 2.2.13). |
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| So God and we, we are all individuals. But the difference is that He's nityo nityānāṁ. Nityānāṁ means plural number. Nityo nityānāṁ. Nityo is singular number, and nityānāṁ means plural number. We are all plural number. We living entities, we are plural number, but God is one, singular number. But that cannot be plural number of God. It is mistake to say that my God, your God, his God, the Christian God, the Hindu God, the Muslim God. The God cannot be two; then there is no question of becoming God.
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| | So God and we, we are all individuals. But the difference is that He's ''nityo nityānāṁ''. ''Nityānāṁ'' means plural number. ''Nityo nityānāṁ. Nityo'' is singular number, and ''nityānāṁ'' means plural number. We are all plural number. We living entities, we are plural number, but God is one, singular number. But that cannot be plural number of God. It is mistake to say that my God, your God, his God, the Christian God, the Hindu God, the Muslim God. The God cannot be two; then there is no question of becoming God. |
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