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<div class="heading">My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of guru. This is vāṇī. Even the guru is not physically present, if you follow the vāṇī, then you are getting help.
<div class="heading">My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of guru. This is vāṇī. Even the guru is not physically present, if you follow the vāṇī, then you are getting help.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco|Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Sudāmā: ...Prabhupāda, either of those associations, which is the highest?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Both are equal.</p>
 
<p>Sudāmā: Both are equal?</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: You have to associate with both. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.151|CC Madhya 19.151]]). Both guru's kṛpā and Kṛṣṇa's kṛpā, they must be joined. Then you will get. (break)</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco|Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
<p>Jayādvaita: We're very eager to get that guru-kṛpā.</p>
Sudāmā: . . . Prabhupāda, either of those associations, which is the highest?
<p>Prabhupāda: Who?</p>
 
<p>Jayadwaita: We are, all of us.</p>
Prabhupāda: Both are equal.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **. If you get guru's kṛpā, then automatically you get Kṛṣṇa.</p>
 
<p>Nārāyaṇa: Guru-kṛpā only comes by pleasing the spiritual master, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
Sudāmā: Both are equal?
<p>Prabhupāda: Otherwise how?</p>
 
<p>Nārāyaṇa: Excuse me?</p>
Prabhupāda: You have to associate with both. ''Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja'' ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.151|CC Madhya 19.151]]). Both ''guru's''  ''kṛpā'' and Kṛṣṇa's ''kṛpā'', they must be joined. Then you will get. (break)
<p>Prabhupāda: Otherwise how it can come?</p>
 
<p>Nārāyaṇa: So those disciples who don't have opportunity to see you or speak with you...</p>
Jayādvaita: We're very eager to get that ''guru-kṛpā''.
<p>Prabhupāda: That he was speaking, vāṇī and vapuḥ. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, vāṇī.</p>
 
<p>Nārāyaṇa: But how do they know they're pleasing you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
Prabhupāda: Who?
<p>Prabhupāda: If you actually follow the words of guru, that means he is pleased. And if you do not follow, how he can be pleased?</p>
 
<p>Sudāmā: Not only that, but your mercy is spread everywhere, and if we take advantage, you told us once, then we will feel the result.</p>
Jayādvaita: We are. All of us.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
 
<p>Jayādvaita: And if we have faith in what the guru says, then automatically we'll do that.</p>
Prabhupāda: Yes. ''Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ''. If you get ''guru's'' ''kṛpā'', then automatically you get Kṛṣṇa.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of guru. This is vāṇī. Even the guru is not physically present, if you follow the vāṇī, then you are getting help.</p>
 
<p>Sudāmā: So there's no question of ever separation as long as the disciple follows the instruction of guru.</p>
Nārāyaṇa: ''Guru-kṛpā'' only comes by pleasing the spiritual master, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
 
Prabhupāda: Otherwise how?
 
Nārāyaṇa: Excuse me?
 
Prabhupāda: Otherwise how it can come?
 
Nārāyaṇa: So those disciples who don't have opportunity to see you or speak with you . . .
 
Prabhupāda: That he was speaking, ''vāṇī'' and ''vapuḥ''. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, ''vāṇī''.
 
Nārāyaṇa: But how do they know they're pleasing you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
 
Prabhupāda: If you actually follow the words of ''guru'', that means he is pleased. And if you do not follow, how he can be pleased?
 
Sudāmā: Not only that, but your mercy is spread everywhere, and if we take advantage, you told us once, then we will feel the result.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes.
 
Jayādvaita: And if we have faith in what the ''guru'' says, then automatically we'll do that.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of ''guru''. This is ''vāṇī''. Even the ''guru'' is not physically present, if you follow the ''vāṇī'', then you are getting help.
 
Sudāmā: So there's no question of ever separation as long as the disciple follows the instruction of ''guru''.
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"Even the guru is not physically present, if you follow the vani, then you are getting help"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of guru. This is vāṇī. Even the guru is not physically present, if you follow the vāṇī, then you are getting help.


Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco:

Sudāmā: . . . Prabhupāda, either of those associations, which is the highest?

Prabhupāda: Both are equal.

Sudāmā: Both are equal?

Prabhupāda: You have to associate with both. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja (CC Madhya 19.151). Both guru's kṛpā and Kṛṣṇa's kṛpā, they must be joined. Then you will get. (break)

Jayādvaita: We're very eager to get that guru-kṛpā.

Prabhupāda: Who?

Jayādvaita: We are. All of us.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ. If you get guru's kṛpā, then automatically you get Kṛṣṇa.

Nārāyaṇa: Guru-kṛpā only comes by pleasing the spiritual master, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Otherwise how?

Nārāyaṇa: Excuse me?

Prabhupāda: Otherwise how it can come?

Nārāyaṇa: So those disciples who don't have opportunity to see you or speak with you . . .

Prabhupāda: That he was speaking, vāṇī and vapuḥ. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, vāṇī.

Nārāyaṇa: But how do they know they're pleasing you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: If you actually follow the words of guru, that means he is pleased. And if you do not follow, how he can be pleased?

Sudāmā: Not only that, but your mercy is spread everywhere, and if we take advantage, you told us once, then we will feel the result.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Jayādvaita: And if we have faith in what the guru says, then automatically we'll do that.

Prabhupāda: Yes. My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of guru. This is vāṇī. Even the guru is not physically present, if you follow the vāṇī, then you are getting help.

Sudāmā: So there's no question of ever separation as long as the disciple follows the instruction of guru.