Prabhupāda: How they'll do it? They do not know how to preach, neither they are trained up. That means it is his disqualification. He could not train them how to preach. Even Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He was training Haridāsa Ṭhākura, Nityānanda, "Go there. Preach there. Do that." My Guru Mahārāja was doing that. But he has no power. He cannot do it. He simply talks that he is a very confidential devotee. That's all. He cannot preach. Otherwise Prabhupāda developed this Māyāpura, and he could not do anything. That means he has no power.
Jayapatākā: He should have developed that place.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He simply talks of big, big words. In the beginning, Prabhupāda had no committee, nothing of the sort. That he'll not admit, that he has no power to do so. He's simply thinks that he's very confidential son of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. That's his.... (break) ...nobody has seen his chief disciple? He lives in Calcutta.
Jayapatākā: Yeah, he's not actually a bābājī. He's gṛhastha.
Prabhupāda: Oh, but he lives like a bābājī dress.
Jayapatākā: I don't know anyone lives by bābājī... He wears dhotī.
Prabhupāda: What is his name?
Jayapatākā: Śacīnandana.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Oh, Śacīnandana. So he.... I have seen several times. He's like bābājī, but what he is?
Jayapatākā: He's a clerk.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Jayapatākā: He's a clerk.
Prabhupāda: Clerk. And he's the chief man.