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Pañcadraviḍa: The nitya-mukta devotees, Prabhupāda, they are always engaged in the service of the Lord, and every thought of theirs is engaged at the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, of serving Him completely. And when they appear on this earth, persons like yourself, they only come here for the purpose of reclaiming the fallen conditioned souls. They have no reason to come to this material world for their own enjoyment. That is never on their mind. But the nitya-bandhas, they are here simply to try and manipulate this material nature so that they can engage their own senses in gratification either of themselves or their extended self, like their family. So the difference between the two is one is serving Kṛṣṇa, the other is simply serving his senses.
Pañcadraviḍa: The ''nitya-mukta'' devotees, Prabhupāda, they are always engaged in the service of the Lord, and every thought of theirs is engaged at the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, of serving Him completely. And when they appear on this earth, persons like yourself, they only come here for the purpose of reclaiming the fallen conditioned souls. They have no reason to come to this material world for their own enjoyment. That is never on their mind. But the ''nitya-bandhas'', they are here simply to try and manipulate this material nature so that they can engage their own senses in gratification either of themselves or their extended self, like their family. So the difference between the two is one is serving Kṛṣṇa, the other is simply serving his senses.


Prabhupāda: Is that all right?
Prabhupāda: Is that all right?
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Satsvarūpa: Eternally liberated and eternally conditioned.
Satsvarūpa: Eternally liberated and eternally conditioned.


Prabhupāda: Eternally liberated, they never forget Kṛṣṇa. There is no period throughout the existence... There is no question of existence. It is their all existence. Never touched by māyā, forgetfulness. That is nitya-mukta. (japa) (break)
Prabhupāda: Eternally liberated, they never forget Kṛṣṇa. There is no period throughout the existence . . . there is no question of existence. It is their all existence. Never touched by ''māyā'', forgetfulness. That is ''nitya-mukta''. (''japa'') (break)


Pañcadraviḍa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, you were talking that a person, he can come up to that position of nitya-mukta by either following the principles of sādhana-bhakti or causeless mercy, or you said there was also the question of kṛpā, the kṛpā-siddhi, that one can attain perfection...
Pañcadraviḍa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, you were talking that a person, he can come up to that position of ''nitya-mukta'' by either following the principles of ''sādhana-bhakti'' or causeless mercy, or you said there was also the question of ''kṛpā'', the ''kṛpā-siddhi,'' that one can attain perfection . . .


Prabhupāda: No, that is sādhana-bhakti.
Prabhupāda: No, that is ''sādhana-bhakti''.


Pañcadraviḍa: One gets mercy by sādhana-bhakti.
Pañcadraviḍa: One gets mercy by ''sādhana-bhakti''.


Prabhupāda: Yes. In the stage of sādhana-bhakti... Sadhana-bhakti is for the conditioned soul. And siddha. Siddha means they are already mature. Siddha means nitya-siddha. (japa) (break)
Prabhupāda: Yes. In the stage of ''sādhana-bhakti . . . sadhana-bhakti'' is for the conditioned soul. And ''siddha. Siddha'' means they are already mature. ''Siddha'' means ''nitya-siddha.'' (''japa'') (break)


Pañcadraviḍa: Also, Prabhupāda, you said that if one does not worship Pañca-tattva, whatever actions he performs, even if he is so-called kṛṣṇa-bhakta, is to be considered offensive.
Pañcadraviḍa: Also, Prabhupāda, you said that if one does not worship Pañca-tattva, whatever actions he performs, even if he is so-called ''kṛṣṇa-bhakta'', is to be considered offensive.


Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes.


Pañcadraviḍa: Does this mean other sampradāyas also?
Pañcadraviḍa: Does this mean other ''sampradāyas'' also?


Prabhupāda: Other sampradāyas?
Prabhupāda: Other ''sampradāyas''?


Pañcadraviḍa: For instance, Rāmānuja-sampradāya or also Madhva-sampradāya, they sometimes don't accept Pañca-tattva as being supreme. So is their actions also considered offensive, even if they are acting within sampradāya?
Pañcadraviḍa: For instance, Rāmānuja-sampradāya or also Madhva-sampradāya, they sometimes don't accept Pañca-tattva as being supreme. So is their actions also considered offensive, even if they are acting within ''sampradāya''?


Prabhupāda: Yes, yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes, yes.
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"Eternally liberated, they never forget Kṛṣṇa. There is no period throughout the existence . . . there is no question of existence. It is their all existence. Never touched by māyā, forgetfulness. That is nitya-mukta"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

Eternally liberated, they never forget Kṛṣṇa. There is no period throughout the existence... There is no question of existence. It is their all existence. Never touched by māyā, forgetfulness. That is nitya-mukta.


Pañcadraviḍa: The nitya-mukta devotees, Prabhupāda, they are always engaged in the service of the Lord, and every thought of theirs is engaged at the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, of serving Him completely. And when they appear on this earth, persons like yourself, they only come here for the purpose of reclaiming the fallen conditioned souls. They have no reason to come to this material world for their own enjoyment. That is never on their mind. But the nitya-bandhas, they are here simply to try and manipulate this material nature so that they can engage their own senses in gratification either of themselves or their extended self, like their family. So the difference between the two is one is serving Kṛṣṇa, the other is simply serving his senses.

Prabhupāda: Is that all right?

Satsvarūpa: Eternally liberated and eternally conditioned.

Prabhupāda: Eternally liberated, they never forget Kṛṣṇa. There is no period throughout the existence . . . there is no question of existence. It is their all existence. Never touched by māyā, forgetfulness. That is nitya-mukta. (japa) (break)

Pañcadraviḍa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, you were talking that a person, he can come up to that position of nitya-mukta by either following the principles of sādhana-bhakti or causeless mercy, or you said there was also the question of kṛpā, the kṛpā-siddhi, that one can attain perfection . . .

Prabhupāda: No, that is sādhana-bhakti.

Pañcadraviḍa: One gets mercy by sādhana-bhakti.

Prabhupāda: Yes. In the stage of sādhana-bhakti . . . sadhana-bhakti is for the conditioned soul. And siddha. Siddha means they are already mature. Siddha means nitya-siddha. (japa) (break)

Pañcadraviḍa: Also, Prabhupāda, you said that if one does not worship Pañca-tattva, whatever actions he performs, even if he is so-called kṛṣṇa-bhakta, is to be considered offensive.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Pañcadraviḍa: Does this mean other sampradāyas also?

Prabhupāda: Other sampradāyas?

Pañcadraviḍa: For instance, Rāmānuja-sampradāya or also Madhva-sampradāya, they sometimes don't accept Pañca-tattva as being supreme. So is their actions also considered offensive, even if they are acting within sampradāya?

Prabhupāda: Yes, yes, yes.