Guest (1): Oh, I mean I'll get that much. That could be as good amount as you (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: Where? Where? Your claim?
Guest (1): Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: You have to..., you have to pay so much stamping fee.
Guest (1): No. The maximum stamp duty to be paid is fifteen thousand. Even if you've got a claim of fifteen crores, fifteen thousand is the maximum stamp duty you have to pay. You don't have to pay more.
Prabhupāda: Fifteen thousand you have to pay?
Guest (1): Yes.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) ...in this age, Kali.
Guest (1): (Hindi) He owes me money, and I couldn't get my money back from him.
Prabhupāda: If you have no money, then you cannot get justice, because he's claiming after all it is right claim, but if he had no fifteen thousand, then he could not claim it. Fifteen thousand is there, then (indistinct), so on, so on. So anyone who has no money, he cannot get justice in Kali-yuga. (Hindi)
Guest (1): A lot of that fifteen thousand is exempted in some cases, but even then you have to figure out some (indistinct) and remain in the..., I mean present yourself in the court in the mood to argue and talk and all that things. So naturally if you don't have even that much, you have to forego (indistinct). What you're saying is hundred percent true. It's like that.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And nowadays bribe also.