Amogha: But Jesus said, "Love thy brother as thyself." So if we love our brother . . .
Prabhupāda: That we are loving. We are giving Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is loving, real loving. We are giving him eternal life, eternal bliss. Unless we love them, why we are taking so much trouble? The preacher must love the people. Otherwise why he is taking? He can do it for himself at home. Why he is taking so much trouble? Why in eighty years old I have come here if I do not love? So who can love better than a preacher? He loves even the animals. Therefore they are preaching, "Don't take meat." Do they love the animals, rascals? They are eating, and they love their country, that's all. Nobody loves. It is simply sense gratification. If somebody loves, he is Kṛṣṇa conscious, that's all. All rascals. They are after their own sense gratification, and they will put a signboard, "I love everyone." This is their business. And fools are accepting, "Oh, this man is very philanthropic." He does not love any man. He loves only senses. That's all. The servant of the senses, that's all. Everyone is working because he is getting money. Where is the love? The minister, the prime minister, everyone, if they say, "No money, no salary," nobody will go there. He takes the opportunity of taking money by bribe, by this way. Therefore they are: "I love your country. Elect me as president." That's all. What this president has done, Nixon? He has stolen so many things. So what is his love for the country?
Paramahaṁsa: He was a bad one, but some of them are good.
Prabhupāda: No, no, some . . . everyone is bad. The man who is talking, he is also bad man. Everyone is bad man. Here there is no good man. Do you think in the prison house any good men go there? All criminals. So anyone who has come in this material world, he is a criminal. Therefore he is punished by this material body, simply suffering. Why you have covered? Because this body cannot tolerate this cold. So the body means suffering, material body. Anyone who has got this material body, he is suffering. Nobody is enjoying. Is a wrong idea. He is thinking . . . that is called māyā. He is suffering, but he is thinking, "I am enjoying." This is called māyā.
Amogha: But the schoolteachers and the church leaders and my parents and grandfather, they all seem to think that it's all right what we're doing, so . . .
Prabhupāda: But because they are all rascals. Therefore we say all rascals. They may think like that, but our conclusion is anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he is a rascal. That's all. He may be my teacher or father or anyone. He is a rascal. That is stated in the Bhāgavata, pitā na sa syāj jananī na sā syāt, gurur na sa syāt, na mocayed yaḥ samupeta-mṛtyum (SB 5.5.18): "One who cannot save me from the impending danger of birth, death, old age and disease, he is not my father, he is not my teacher, he is not my guru, he is not my kinsman, he is not my wife, he is not my husband." So many list. So who has got this knowledge, how to save one from the cycle of birth, death and old age? It is only we, Kṛṣṇa conscious people. We are teaching, "Stop your this cycle of repetition of birth, death, old age and disease. Come to eternal life and blissful life." So we are the only friends. All are enemies even in the shape of friend or father or teacher—enemies.