Jayatīrtha: Somebody sent some dust from the bhajan-kutir of the Gosvāmīs of Vṛndāvana, and he was wondering whether it could be put on the altar in some little brass box, on Lord Caitanya's altar.
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Altar is the seat of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The devotee's dust cannot go there. (break)
Svarūpa Dāmodara : The distance from...
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Svarūpa Dāmodara : The relative (indistinct) between the earth and the...
Prabhupāda: (indistinct), they say that this is utopian. But when they speak of "we are going to send some (indistinct) in a capsule and it will reach, and after ten thousand years it will come out," are these not utopian? They will make a station, (indistinct) station, and (indistinct). All these are practical or utopian? What is the opposite word of utopian ?
Jayatīrtha: Pragmatic.
Prabhupāda: Pragmatic?
Jayatīrtha: Pragmatic means practical, and utopian means idealistic concept. (indistinct) So many people are suffering here, famine, so many things, and they're spending so many millions of dollars. (indistinct) anyway.
Prabhupāda: Why the scientists cannot make it straight?
Svarūpa Dāmodara : Ideality is assumed in many scientific theories.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Svarūpa Dāmodara : Ideality of certain laws of certain matter, they assume it.
Prabhupāda: Are they not utopian?