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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay|Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Wherever there are nice trees, there will be birds.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay|Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Girirāja: Do they have many birds in Bhuvaneśvara?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Wherever there are nice trees, there will be birds.</p>
<p>Guru dāsa: Girirāja is asking, he thinks there are more birds in Bombay than in Bhuvaneśvara. Girirāja Prabhu is stating there is more birds in Bombay.</p>
<p>Guru dāsa: Girirāja is asking, he thinks there are more birds in Bombay than in Bhuvaneśvara. Girirāja Prabhu is stating there is more birds in Bombay.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: There are more crows in Bombay than any other place. (laughter)</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: There are more crows in Bombay than any other place. (laughter)</p>
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:māyā-grasta jīvera haya se bhāva udaya
<p> (Hindi) Ghostly haunted. And he talks all nonsense. Similarly, anyone who is in the material condition, he is a ghost-haunted man. So he can talk anything, all nonsense. Piśācī pāile yena... This is applicable to everyone. Anyone who has got this material body, he's ghostly-haunted. Therefore we are explaining that verse, that first treatment is how to get out of the clutches of this ghost which has attacked everyone. So ghostly haunted man, he's himself a victim of the ghost. How he can treat other men? He's also haunted by the ghost. This is the position. You may, one may say, "I am haunted by better ghost." That may be, but every one of us ghostly haunted. And śāstra says this is treatment. Tapasya. Tapo divyaṁ putrakā, yasmād sattvaṁ śuddhyed ([[Vanisource:SB 5.5.1|SB 5.5.1]]). Sattva, our existence, is polluted. (break) ...the skin and bone. The skin and bone will continue so long I am in the material condition of life. Either bird's skin... Just like who was talking of evolution, who was? This disease of skin and bone will continue. Because the spirit soul is not the bone and skin. The Darwin's theory, he is putting that the bone is changing. The bone is not changing. You get different bones in different life. I am changing my position. I am going from one apartment to another apartment. The apartment not changing. I am changing apartment. That is the difference between Darwin's theory and our theory. They are thinking the apartment is becoming another apartment. No. The apartments are already there. I am entering different apartments as I can pay for it. That is karma. According to my karma, I am sometimes residing in one apartment, in another apartment. This is going on. The Darwin's theory, the apartment is changing. That's not the fact. Fact is I am living entity. Tathā dehān..., Kṛṣṇa also says tathā dehāntara. Apartment antara. The spirit soul is the same. There is no change. That is spirit always. But according to his karma, he is going from this apartment, or this body, tathā dehān... That is the main point with the modern science and our Vedic knowledge. That is the main difference. They have no idea of the existence of the soul, and therefore say, "We are trying to make, we are trying to make." This rascaldom is going on. You cannot make soul. That is not possible. You cannot do anything. You cannot make even the body, what to speak of the soul. This is...</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Modern scientists don't say that we can make the soul. Soul is permanent in every man.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, the rascals say, "We can create." So that rascal, number of that rascal is more. They are saying, bluffing, that "Now we shall create chemicals. We are trying." This is going on. Just this morning he was saying.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: It is the theory of these people I think that...</p>
<p>Guest (4): Communists.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Communists.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That means rascalism. Not a single soul has been created till now and these rascals are claiming that they are going... And they are scientists.</p>
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"I have no higher consciousness"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

I have no higher consciousness.

Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay:

Girirāja: Do they have many birds in Bhuvaneśvara?

Prabhupāda: Wherever there are nice trees, there will be birds.

Guru dāsa: Girirāja is asking, he thinks there are more birds in Bombay than in Bhuvaneśvara. Girirāja Prabhu is stating there is more birds in Bombay.

Dr. Patel: There are more crows in Bombay than any other place. (laughter)

Prabhupāda: No, no. They are also birds.

Dr. Patel: There are very more filthier, for the crows, to clean.

Guru dāsa: So Prabhupāda should go then.

Dr. Patel: No, you see, if the good people is there, up there, you know the filth disappears.

Guru dāsa: That's what the śāstra says. The sun dries up urine in a filthy place.

Dr. Patel: So he must be here. Another argument and he will answer.

Guru dāsa: Yes, but there is also urine in Bhuvaneśvara. Indian doctor. In Bhuvaneśvara you are going to have any plan for making a temple?

Prabhupāda: What is my plan, that is always there. That is to print books and construct temples. Throughout the whole world this plan is going on. Fifty percent construction, fifty percent printing books. Whatever I get money, I give him. That's all. I am the same beggar. Either it comes ten lakhs or fifty lakhs, ten crores.

Dr. Patel: You are exhibiting this body to be "I". Acchedyo 'yam adāhyo 'yam akledyo 'śoṣya eva ca.

Prabhupāda: No, no, that is different.

Dr. Patel: You come down to body consciousness and talk to us. We want you to talk from higher consciousness.

Prabhupāda: I have no higher consciousness.

Dr. Patel: Then talk from the lower consciousness, still lower.

Prabhupāda: Why should I?

Dr. Patel: Let us go out and make a business in the stock market.

Prabhupāda: I am doing business. I am selling books. (laughter)

Dr. Patel: Stock action. Why not. It is very easy.

Prabhupāda: I am selling books.

Dr. Patel: Why not a Wall Street operation? It is very easy.

Prabhupāda: They are all engaged in doing business.

Dr. Patel: Have you wanted a businessman to come?

Prabhupāda: I am doing business.

Guest (3): (Hindi)

Dr. Patel: We can still make a bigger business in Wall Street. Have a Wall Street here in Bombay and... (laughs)

Prabhupāda: You are criticizing the bāniyās. The bāniyās criticize the doctor. (laughter)

Dr. Patel: And doctor criticizes you.

Prabhupāda: Bāniyās say, they say, nal jal jachuri tene dhaturi.(?)

Dr. Patel: Nal jal?

Prabhupāda: Jachuri.(?)

Dr. Patel: Jachuri means?

Prabhupāda: Cheating. (Hindi)

Prabhupāda: (Bengali) Or all cheating words.

Dr. Patel: But according to our śāstra, it is so.

Prabhupāda: No, no, this is according to bāniyā, the doctor is calculated...

Dr. Patel: Bāniyā is right in the way. Bāniyā is right.

Prabhupāda: (Bengali)

Dr. Patel: In Bengali.

Prabhupāda: In Bengali village there are many quacks. You know that. Everywhere. (laughter) So what their business? Nal jal yachuri tene dhaturi.(?)

Dr. Patel: In Mahābhārata in Vidura-nīti, Vidura has mentioned that a doctor should not be trusted and should not be allowed to come in the house. I am reading presently that part of Mahābhārata. Why? Because they must be right from the beginning all the times also they must be of the same type.

Prabhupāda: Another place, Vaiṣṇava says, either he is businessman, or doctor, anyone, they are all madmen.

piśācī pāile yena mati-cchana haya
māyā-grasta jīvera haya se bhāva udaya