Prabhupāda: There is said that so long . . . bhukti-mukti-spṛhā yāvat piśācī hṛdi vartate (CC Madhya 19.176). Rūpa Gosvāmī. Bhukti-mukti-siddhi piśācī. It is . . . they are compared with piśācī. What is called, piśācī? Witch? What is that? Witch? What does it mean by "witch"?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One who flies around bewitching people.
Prabhupāda: What is that witch?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Puts a spell on people.
Devotee (1): Black magic.
Devotee (2): Black . . .
Prabhupāda: Black, yes. Witch.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Black, yes. Flying around. Ghosts.
Prabhupāda: So bhukti-mukti, they are considered as witch. Bhukti-mukti-siddhi . . . bhukti-mukti piśācī yāvat hṛdi vartate, tāvad bhakti-sukhasya. So long this piśācī will be within heart . . . just like if a man is ghostly haunted, he cannot have healthy condition. He's in a troubled condition, ghostly haunted. Bhūte pavana. So this is bhūte pavana, bhukti-mukti. That is the . . . piśācī hṛdi vartate.
Tāvad bhakti-sukhasya atra katham abhyudayo amale. So long these two piśācīs, witches, are there within the heart, how he can relish the transcendental bliss of devotional service? That is not possible. Bhukti-mukti . . . bhukti-mukti piśācī yāvad hṛdi vartate tāvad bhakti-sukhasyātra katham abhyudayo 'male . There is no possibility. One must be freed from these desire. Anyābhilāṣita-śūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam (Brs. 1.1.11). Then one can relish. So long one is overpowered by bhukti-mukti-siddhi, he cannot become a devotee.