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| <div id="LectureonSB624VrndavanaSeptember81975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="705" link="Lecture on SB 6.2.4 -- Vrndavana, September 8, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.2.4 -- Vrndavana, September 8, 1975"> | | <div id="LectureonSB624VrndavanaSeptember81975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="705" link="Lecture on SB 6.2.4 -- Vrndavana, September 8, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.2.4 -- Vrndavana, September 8, 1975"> |
| <div class="heading">So therefore, in spite of their propaganda, we are existing there. We are existing. We have come out triumphant. They could not do anything. | | <div class="heading">So therefore, in spite of their propaganda, we are existing there. We are existing. We have come out triumphant. They could not do anything. So the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is so strong, and indirectly, directly, or some way or other, if you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, you become benefited. |
| So the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is so strong, and indirectly, directly, or some way or other, if you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, you become benefited. | |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.2.4 -- Vrndavana, September 8, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.2.4 -- Vrndavana, September 8, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we have taken this Bhāgavatam. We should be very, very careful to become first-class men so that others will follow. Sa yat pramāṇaṁ kurute. If you become a first-class man, sa yat pramāṇam, whatever you will do, lokas tad anuvartate, people will follow, naturally. Lokas tad anuvartate. Unfortunately nowadays first-class man means kill Kṛṣṇa. This is first-class man. All these so-called rascal scholars of Bhagavad-gītā, their only business is how to kill Kṛṣṇa, pounce Him, (Kamsa?), as Kamsa was planning how to kill Kṛṣṇa. That was his plan, demon. He was also thinking of Kṛṣṇa, but he was thinking Kṛṣṇa, how to kill Him. So that is not bhakti. Kṛṣṇa consciousness... He was also Kṛṣṇa conscious. He was thinking always, twenty-four hours, Kṛṣṇa, how to kill Kṛṣṇa. So that is not bhakti. Bhakti means how to serve Kṛṣṇa. That is bhakti. Ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānuśīlanaṁ, na tu pratikūlyena ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.167|CC Madhya 19.167]]). Pratikūla means adverse. Yes. If you think of Kṛṣṇa adversely, how to kill this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement... Of course, Kṛṣṇa is so nice that even if you think of Kṛṣṇa adversely, because you'll chant "Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa," you will get benefit. Kṛṣṇa is so nice. Because you are chanting unconsciously... Just like there were so many propaganda in Germany, "The Hare Kṛṣṇa people are so bad." But every paper chanted Hare Kṛṣṇa. "Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is bad," but in the beginning, "Hare Kṛṣṇa." So therefore, in spite of their propaganda, we are existing there. We are existing. We have come out triumphant. They could not do anything. So the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is so strong, and indirectly, directly, or some way or other, if you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, you become benefited. It is so. So if you neglectfully chant Hare Kṛṣṇa you become so benefited, then how much you will be benefited if you carefully chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That should be the ideal. Therefore, sa yat pramāṇaṁ kurute lokas tad anuvartate. Unfortunately, those decrying this Kṛṣṇa movement or Kṛṣṇa... They directly making propaganda. When Kṛṣṇa says, man-manā mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru, the so-called scholars, they say, "It is not to Kṛṣṇa." They're misleading. Lokas tad anuvartate. The people are becoming against Kṛṣṇa: "Why Kṛṣṇa should be God? I have got another God, manufactured. Here is God." Kṛṣṇa was so beautiful, and I am God, so ugly God? No. There are so many ugly Gods nowadays that ferocious face and he is God. We worship God, so nice face, people come and become enchanted, and they bring a God, a ferocious head, and he becomes God. This is going on. The whole propaganda is like that. Even big, big political leaders, they'll say, "We don't believe in Kṛṣṇa, there was a person as Kṛṣṇa living ever." So people are being misled. Lokas tad anuvartate. He has taken the position of śreyān, big leader, big scholar, and he is decrying Kṛṣṇa. So what people will do? They are helpless. They will give, "Oh, Mr. such and such said it is fiction. Kṛṣṇa is imagination." This is going on. In Vṛndāvana you'll find so many big, big Māyāvādīs. They're explaining that this Kṛṣṇa concept is an imagination, and people are thronged together to hear him, in Vṛndāvana, and what to speak of other places. So this is the position of the world, and they are suffering and they will continue to suffer. Nature will punish them. Yamarāja will take them. That is their next life. So you try to save them. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement.</p> | | |
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| | So we have taken this ''Bhāgavatam''. We should be very, very careful to become first-class men so that others will follow. ''Sa yat pramāṇaṁ kurute'' ([[Vanisource:BG 3.21 (1972)|BG 3.21]]). If you become a first-class man, ''sa yat pramāṇam'', whatever you will do, ''lokas tad anuvartate'', people will follow, naturally. ''Lokas tad anuvartate''. Unfortunately, nowadays first-class man means kill Kṛṣṇa. This is first-class man. All these so-called rascal scholars of ''Bhagavad-gītā'', their only business is how to kill Kṛṣṇa—Kaṁsa, as Kaṁsa was planning how to kill Kṛṣṇa. That was his plan, demon. He was also thinking of Kṛṣṇa, but he was thinking Kṛṣṇa, how to kill Him. So that is not ''bhakti''. Kṛṣṇa consciousness. . . He was also Kṛṣṇa conscious. He was thinking always, twenty-four hours, Kṛṣṇa, "How to kill Kṛṣṇa." So that is not ''bhakti''. ''Bhakti ''means how to serve Kṛṣṇa. That is ''bhakti. Ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānuśīlanaṁ, na tu pratikūlyena'' ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.167|CC Madhya 19.167]]). ''Pratikūla'' means adverse. Yes. If you think of Kṛṣṇa adversely, how to kill this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. . . Of course, Kṛṣṇa is so nice that even if you think of Kṛṣṇa adversely, because you'll chant "Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa," you will get benefit. Kṛṣṇa is so nice. Because you are chanting unconsciously. . . Just like there were so many propaganda in Germany: "The Hare Kṛṣṇa people are so bad." But every paper chanted Hare Kṛṣṇa. "Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is bad," but in the beginning, "Hare Kṛṣṇa." So therefore, in spite of their propaganda, we are existing there. We are existing. We have come out triumphant. They could not do anything. |
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| | So the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is so strong, and indirectly, directly, or some way or other if you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, you become benefited. It is so. So if you neglectfully chant Hare Kṛṣṇa you become so benefited, then how much you will be benefited if you carefully chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That should be the ideal. Therefore, ''sa yat pramāṇaṁ kurute lokas tad anuvartate''. Unfortunately, those decrying this Kṛṣṇa movement or Kṛṣṇa. . . They directly making propaganda. When Kṛṣṇa says, ''man-manā mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru'' ([[Vanisource:BG 18.65 (1972)|BG 18.65]]), the so-called scholars, they say, "It is not to Kṛṣṇa." They're misleading. ''Lokas tad anuvartate''. The people are becoming against Kṛṣṇa: "Why Kṛṣṇa should be God? I have got another God, manufactured. Here is God." Kṛṣṇa was so beautiful, and I am God, so ugly God? No. There are so many ugly Gods nowadays, that ferocious face and he is God. We worship God, so nice face, people come and become enchanted. And they bring a God, a ferocious head, and he becomes God. This is going on. The whole propaganda is like that. Even big, big political leaders, they'll say, "We don't believe in Kṛṣṇa, there was a person as Kṛṣṇa living ever." |
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| | So people are being misled. ''Lokas tad anuvartate''. He has taken the position of ''śreyān'', big leader, big scholar, and he is decrying Kṛṣṇa. So what people will do? They are helpless. They will give, "Oh, Mr. Such-and-such said it is fiction. Kṛṣṇa is imagination." This is going on. In Vṛndāvana you'll find so many big, big Māyāvādīs, they're explaining that this Kṛṣṇa concept is an imagination, and people are thronged together to hear him, in Vṛndāvana, and what to speak of other places. |
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| | So this is the position of the world, and they are suffering and they will continue to suffer. Nature will punish them. Yamarāja will take them. That is their next life. So you try to save them. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. |
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| | Devotees: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda. (end).</p> |
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