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<div class="heading">No, no. We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.
<div class="heading">No, no. We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: There are two kṣetrajñas: one kṣetrajña, the individual soul, and the other kṣetrajña is Bhagavān. There are two kṣetrajñas. Dvaitavāda.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: There are two kṣetrajñas. One is the individual kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Guest (5): But we mean to who is residing in the heart with the ātmā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Then He's kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Who become splitted after our death, that is the kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Then it will be two.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There are two kṣetrajñas: one kṣetrajña, the individual soul, and the other kṣetrajña is Bhagavān. There are two kṣetrajñas. Dvaitavāda.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Yes. Then this monism and dualism, then what about the Viśiṣṭa-advaita?</p>
<p>Guest (5): Yes. Then this monism and dualism, then what about the Viśiṣṭa-advaita?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: Yes!</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes!</p>
<p>Guest (5): Then there are two Gods.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Then there are two Gods.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Not two Gods. One God. One is servant. Not two Gods. There cannot be two Gods. Otherwise Kṛṣṇa says, mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya ([[Vanisource:BG 7.7|BG 7.7]]).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Not two Gods. One God. One is servant. Not two Gods. There cannot be two Gods. Otherwise Kṛṣṇa says, mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya ([[Vanisource:BG 7.7 (1972)|BG 7.7]]).</p>
<p>Guest (5): Two kṣetrajña means two Gods.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Two kṣetrajña means two Gods.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Why kṣetrajña two Gods?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Why kṣetrajña two Gods?</p>
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<p>Guest (5): Two kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Two kṣetrajña.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No! Two kṣetrajñas does not mean two Gods. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati ([[Vanisource:BG 18.61|BG 18.61]]). So He is all-pervading. You are not all-pervading.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No! Two kṣetrajñas does not mean two Gods. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati ([[Vanisource:BG 18.61 (1972)|BG 18.61]]). So He is all-pervading. You are not all-pervading.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Kṛṣṇa is all-pervading.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Kṛṣṇa is all-pervading.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Guest (5): But by sandhāna, by sandhāna...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So even if you say... Even if you...</p>
<p>Guest (5): I can also pervade. I can also pervade. (laughter)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that?</p>
<p>Bhāgavata: By sādhana he can become all-pervading himself.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is foolishness. That is foolishness.</p>
<p>Guest (4): There is no use in argument.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is not possible.</p>
<p>Guest (5): In this body...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is not possible. Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ jīva loke sanātana BG 15.7 . Sanātana-jīva-loke jīva āṁśa. Āṁśa cannot be the full. Yes. Āṁśa, part, cannot be equal to the whole.</p>
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"Then this monism and dualism, then what about the Visista-advaita"

Lectures

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures

No, no. We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.

Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977:

Prabhupāda: There are two kṣetrajñas. One is the individual kṣetrajña.

Guest (5): But we mean to who is residing in the heart with the ātmā.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Then He's kṣetrajña.

Guest (5): Who become splitted after our death, that is the kṣetrajña.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Guest (5): Then it will be two.

Prabhupāda: There are two kṣetrajñas: one kṣetrajña, the individual soul, and the other kṣetrajña is Bhagavān. There are two kṣetrajñas. Dvaitavāda.

Guest (5): Yes. Then this monism and dualism, then what about the Viśiṣṭa-advaita?

Prabhupāda: No, no. We are talking of Bhagavad-gītā. Why you are bringing so many things? First of all try to understand the simple thing in the Bhagavad-gītā. Then bring big, big words. Yes, there are two kṣetrajñas. You have to accept it.

Guest (5): Two kṣetrajñas.

Prabhupāda: Yes!

Guest (5): Then duality.

Prabhupāda: Yes!

Guest (5): Then there are two Gods.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Not two Gods. One God. One is servant. Not two Gods. There cannot be two Gods. Otherwise Kṛṣṇa says, mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya (BG 7.7).

Guest (5): Two kṣetrajña means two Gods.

Prabhupāda: Why kṣetrajña two Gods?

Guest (5): Because jña means God.

Prabhupāda: Then why two Gods?

Guest (5): Two kṣetrajña.

Prabhupāda: No! Two kṣetrajñas does not mean two Gods. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati (BG 18.61). So He is all-pervading. You are not all-pervading.

Guest (5): Kṛṣṇa is all-pervading.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Guest (5): But by sandhāna, by sandhāna...

Prabhupāda: So even if you say... Even if you...

Guest (5): I can also pervade. I can also pervade. (laughter)

Prabhupāda: What is that?

Bhāgavata: By sādhana he can become all-pervading himself.

Prabhupāda: That is foolishness. That is foolishness.

Guest (4): There is no use in argument.

Prabhupāda: That is not possible.

Guest (5): In this body...

Prabhupāda: That is not possible. Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ jīva loke sanātana BG 15.7 . Sanātana-jīva-loke jīva āṁśa. Āṁśa cannot be the full. Yes. Āṁśa, part, cannot be equal to the whole.