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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 20, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 20, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Does it mean the sand is begetting the insects?</p>
 
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: No.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: So their conclusion is like that. Because they see that the insects are coming from the sand. So from matter, this life is coming. This is their logic. It is called in Sanskrit: taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. Everything is discussed. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. You know taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya?</p>
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<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: No.</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: Taṇḍula means rice.</p>
Prabhupāda: Does it mean the sand is begetting the insects?
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Rice?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Rice. And vṛścika means scorpion. The scorpions enter within the heaps of rice and lay their eggs. And by heat of the rice, they, another baby vṛścika come out. And when they're coming out of the, that taṇḍula, rice, the rascals are thinking that the rice is begetting the vṛścika. They do not know the inner secrecy that another vṛścika, scorpion, has laid down the eggs within the rice, and by the fermentation of the heat of the rice, the eggs are fructified and the living entities coming out. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya.</p>
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No.
 
Prabhupāda: So their conclusion is like that. Because they see that the insects are coming from the sand, so from matter, this life is coming. This is their logic. It is called, in Sanskrit, ''taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya.'' Everything is discussed. ''Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya''. You know ''taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya''?
 
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No.
 
Prabhupāda: ''Taṇḍula'' means rice.
 
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Rice?
 
Prabhupāda: Rice. And ''vṛścika'' means scorpion. The scorpion enter within the heaps of rice and lay their eggs. And by heat of the rice, they . . . another's baby ''vṛścika'' come out. And when they're coming out of the, that ''taṇḍula'', rice, the rascals are thinking that the rice is begetting the ''vṛścika''. They do not know the inner secrecy that another ''vṛścika'', scorpion, has laid down the eggs within the rice, and by the fermentation of the heat of the rice, the eggs are fructified and the living entity's coming out. ''Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya.''
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<div class="heading">Vṛścika means scorpion, and taṇdūla means rice. So "Life is coming from matter"—this is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Life cannot come from matter.
<div class="heading">Vṛścika means scorpion, and taṇdūla means rice. So "Life is coming from matter"—this is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Life cannot come from matter.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1975, Atlanta|Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1975, Atlanta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: If sexual intercourse is the beginning of life, then why it is not always successful? We say that when the life, living entity, is there in the semina and it is put into the woman's womb, then body develops. Therefore, the beginning is the life. This is practical. And this life is the part and parcel of the supreme life. Therefore the beginning is God. Janmādy asya yataḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). Athāto brahma jijñāsā. So we have to establish this theory in this misguided world that... And besides that, why they cannot produce life from matter? What is the value of their statement? That they have not been able to do. Where is the proof that from matter life comes? You do it.</p>
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<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Proof is under investigation. (laughter)</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1975, Atlanta|Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1975, Atlanta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh? That is nonsense. That is nonsense. This proof, that from life, life is coming, there is proof, so many proof. A man, animal, trees—everything is coming from life. Up till now, nobody has seen that a man is born from a stone. Nobody has seen. Sometimes it is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. You know that? Vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Vṛścika means scorpion, and taṇdūla means rice. Sometimes we see some heaps of rice, the scorpion is coming. But that is not that the rice has given birth to the scorpion. You have not seen in your country? We have seen it. From the rice, heaps of rice, one scorpion, small scorpion, is coming. The fact is that the parent of the scorpion, they put their eggs within the rice and, being fermented, the scorpion comes out, not that from rice the scorpion is coming out. Therefore it is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Vṛścika means scorpion, and taṇdūla means rice. So "Life is coming from matter"—this is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Life cannot come from matter. Besides that... Just like when there is life, living entity, the body grows, body changes or grows, as you say. But if the child is dead or come out dead, then the body does not grow. Then matter is growing on life. Why, a dead child born, it does not grow? What is the reason? What is your scientists' reason?</p>
Prabhupāda: We say that when the life, living entity, is there in the semina and it is put into the woman's womb, then body develops. Therefore, the beginning is the life. This is practical. And this life is the part and parcel of the supreme life. Therefore the beginning is God. ''Janmādy asya yataḥ'' ([[vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). ''Athāto brahma jijñāsā''. So we have to establish this theory in this misguided world that. . . And besides that, why they cannot produce life from matter? What is the value of their statement? That they have not been able to do. Where is the proof that from matter life comes? You do it.
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: They will say that somehow the chemical reactions are not going right in the body, in the dead body.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: But you give the chemical. You rascal, you have got so many chemicals. Why don't you give it? What is the use of saying like that? Now the child is dead. Now you give some chemical injection and bring it into life. Why you cannot do that? If you cannot do that, then what is the nonsense, saying that some chemical is missing? If it is missing, you replace it. Why you cannot replace?</p>
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Proof is under investigation. (laughter)
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Because they haven't found out the chemical.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore you are rascal. You do not know what is that chemical, and still you say that some chemical is missing. This is going on, bluffing, cheating. This should be stopped.</p>
Prabhupāda: Eh? That is nonsense. That is nonsense. This proof, that from life, life is coming, there is proof, so many proof. A man, animal, trees—everything is coming from life. Up till now, nobody has seen that a man is born from a stone. Nobody has seen. Sometimes the. . . it is called ''vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya''. You know that? ''Vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya''. ''Vṛścika'' means scorpion, and ''taṇdūla'' means rice. Sometimes we see some heaps of rice, the scorpion is coming. But that is not that the rice has given birth to the scorpion. You have not seen in your country? We have seen it. From the rice, heaps of rice, one scorpion, small scorpion, is coming. The fact is that the parent of the scorpion, they put their eggs within the rice and, being fermented, the scorpion come, not that from rice the scorpion is coming. Therefore it is called ''vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya''. ''Vṛścika'' means scorpion, and ''taṇdūla'' means rice. So, matter is. . . "Life is coming from matter"—this is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Life cannot come from matter. Besides that. . . Just like when there is life, living entity, the body grows, body changes or grows, as you say. But if the child is dead or come out dead, then the body does not grow. Then matter is growing on life.</p>
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<div class="heading">Taṇḍula means rice, and vṛścika means scorpion. The scorpion coming out of the heaps of rice, so therefore rice is producing scorpion. This logic is wrong.
<div class="heading">Taṇḍula means rice, and vṛścika means scorpion. The scorpion coming out of the heaps of rice, so therefore rice is producing scorpion. This logic is wrong.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.|'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: (indistinct) arguing that rice can bring forth scorpions, he said that can happen.</p>
 
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: That... Prabhupāda said that rice can give scorpions? Something like that, scorpion comes out of rice.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya.</p>
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<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Where is this, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Is it in...?</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.|'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
<p>Prabhupāda: In the Nyāya-śāstra, it is there. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. Taṇḍula means rice, and vṛścika means scorpion. The scorpion coming out of the heaps of rice, so therefore rice is producing scorpion. This logic is wrong.</p>
Devotee: They were arguing that rice can bring forth scorpions. He said that could happen.
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, so but people then believed like that. So Pasteur, actually he believed strongly in God, and he wanted to disprove that theory, and, in fact, he got prize for doing this experiment from a French academy and, during that year... This flask contains sugar solution and with some yeast to ferment at the beginning. But now the experiment was to completely kill any germs inside the flask by heating, in the beginning, and then cool it down automatically and to keep for some time, about two or three days...</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Sterilization.</p>
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That . . . Prabhupāda said that rice can give scorpions? Something like that, scorpion comes out of rice.
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, sterilization. And then see whether there is any life developed within that broth. Now in the first flask, the neck is still attached to the flask. Now Pasteur found that there was no micro-organisms fermenting the flask, in the solution inside the flask. But after some time he cut the neck of the flask, that is in the second flask, then as soon as the neck is cut, then microorganisms from the air, surrounding air, atmosphere, entered into the flask, and then the solution is fermented. So that was actually the proof that without presence of the micro-organisms from outside, from the atmosphere, then life cannot grow into that matter.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is Vedic theory. That is explained in the Bhāgavatam.</p>
Prabhupāda: Yes, ''taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya''.
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: And here he has a nice quote, Pasteur. Somebody can read that?</p>
 
<p>Hari-śauri: Says: "Posterity will one day laugh at the foolishness of the modern materialistic philosophers. The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the works of the creator."</p>
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Where is this, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Is it in . . .?
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
 
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: So he believed actually completely in the divine concept, divine personality. But unfortunately this experiment has been misinterpreted by these demoniac scientists.</p>
Prabhupāda: In the ''Nyāya-śāstra'', it is there. ''Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya''. ''Taṇḍula'' means rice, and ''vṛścika'' means scorpion. The scorpion coming out of the heaps of rice, so therefore rice is producing scorpion. This logic is wrong.
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Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, so, but people even believed like that. So Pasteur, actually he believed strongly in God, and he wanted to disprove that theory, and in fact he got prize for doing this experiment from a French academy, and during that year . . . this flask contains sugar solution, and with some yeast to ferment at the beginning. But now the experiment was to completely kill any germs inside the flask by heating, in the beginning, and then cool it down automatically and to keep for some time, about two or three days . . .
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Prabhupāda: Sterilization.
 
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, sterilization. And then see whether there is any life developed within that broth. Now in the first flask, where the neck is still attached to the flask, now Pasteur found that there was no micro-organisms fermenting the flask, in the solution inside the flask. But after some time he cut the neck of the flask, that is in the second flask, then as soon as the neck is cut, then micro-organisms from the air, surrounding air, atmosphere, entered into the flask, and then the solution is fermented. So that was actually the proof that without presence of the micro-organisms from outside, from the atmosphere, then life cannot grow into that matter.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is Vedic theory. That is explained in the ''Bhāgavatam''.
 
Svarūpa Dāmodara: And here he has a nice quote, Pasteur. Somebody can read that?
 
Hari-śauri: Says: "Posterity will one day laugh at the foolishness of the modern materialistic philosophers. The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the works of the creator."
 
Prabhupāda: Yes.
 
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So he believed actually completely in the divine concept, divine personality. But unfortunately, this experiment has been misinterpreted by these demoniac scientists.

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

Taṇḍula means rice.


Morning Walk -- April 20, 1973, Los Angeles:

Prabhupāda: Does it mean the sand is begetting the insects?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: No.

Prabhupāda: So their conclusion is like that. Because they see that the insects are coming from the sand, so from matter, this life is coming. This is their logic. It is called, in Sanskrit, taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. Everything is discussed. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. You know taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: No.

Prabhupāda: Taṇḍula means rice.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Rice?

Prabhupāda: Rice. And vṛścika means scorpion. The scorpion enter within the heaps of rice and lay their eggs. And by heat of the rice, they . . . another's baby vṛścika come out. And when they're coming out of the, that taṇḍula, rice, the rascals are thinking that the rice is begetting the vṛścika. They do not know the inner secrecy that another vṛścika, scorpion, has laid down the eggs within the rice, and by the fermentation of the heat of the rice, the eggs are fructified and the living entity's coming out. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya.

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Vṛścika means scorpion, and taṇdūla means rice. So "Life is coming from matter"—this is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Life cannot come from matter.

Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1975, Atlanta:

Prabhupāda: We say that when the life, living entity, is there in the semina and it is put into the woman's womb, then body develops. Therefore, the beginning is the life. This is practical. And this life is the part and parcel of the supreme life. Therefore the beginning is God. Janmādy asya yataḥ (SB 1.1.1). Athāto brahma jijñāsā. So we have to establish this theory in this misguided world that. . . And besides that, why they cannot produce life from matter? What is the value of their statement? That they have not been able to do. Where is the proof that from matter life comes? You do it.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Proof is under investigation. (laughter)

Prabhupāda: Eh? That is nonsense. That is nonsense. This proof, that from life, life is coming, there is proof, so many proof. A man, animal, trees—everything is coming from life. Up till now, nobody has seen that a man is born from a stone. Nobody has seen. Sometimes the. . . it is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. You know that? Vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Vṛścika means scorpion, and taṇdūla means rice. Sometimes we see some heaps of rice, the scorpion is coming. But that is not that the rice has given birth to the scorpion. You have not seen in your country? We have seen it. From the rice, heaps of rice, one scorpion, small scorpion, is coming. The fact is that the parent of the scorpion, they put their eggs within the rice and, being fermented, the scorpion come, not that from rice the scorpion is coming. Therefore it is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Vṛścika means scorpion, and taṇdūla means rice. So, matter is. . . "Life is coming from matter"—this is called vṛścika-taṇdūla-nyāya. Life cannot come from matter. Besides that. . . Just like when there is life, living entity, the body grows, body changes or grows, as you say. But if the child is dead or come out dead, then the body does not grow. Then matter is growing on life.

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

Taṇḍula means rice, and vṛścika means scorpion. The scorpion coming out of the heaps of rice, so therefore rice is producing scorpion. This logic is wrong.


'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.:

Devotee: They were arguing that rice can bring forth scorpions. He said that could happen.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: That . . . Prabhupāda said that rice can give scorpions? Something like that, scorpion comes out of rice.

Prabhupāda: Yes, taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Where is this, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Is it in . . .?

Prabhupāda: In the Nyāya-śāstra, it is there. Taṇḍula-vṛścika-nyāya. Taṇḍula means rice, and vṛścika means scorpion. The scorpion coming out of the heaps of rice, so therefore rice is producing scorpion. This logic is wrong.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, so, but people even believed like that. So Pasteur, actually he believed strongly in God, and he wanted to disprove that theory, and in fact he got prize for doing this experiment from a French academy, and during that year . . . this flask contains sugar solution, and with some yeast to ferment at the beginning. But now the experiment was to completely kill any germs inside the flask by heating, in the beginning, and then cool it down automatically and to keep for some time, about two or three days . . .

Prabhupāda: Sterilization.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, sterilization. And then see whether there is any life developed within that broth. Now in the first flask, where the neck is still attached to the flask, now Pasteur found that there was no micro-organisms fermenting the flask, in the solution inside the flask. But after some time he cut the neck of the flask, that is in the second flask, then as soon as the neck is cut, then micro-organisms from the air, surrounding air, atmosphere, entered into the flask, and then the solution is fermented. So that was actually the proof that without presence of the micro-organisms from outside, from the atmosphere, then life cannot grow into that matter.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is Vedic theory. That is explained in the Bhāgavatam.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: And here he has a nice quote, Pasteur. Somebody can read that?

Hari-śauri: Says: "Posterity will one day laugh at the foolishness of the modern materialistic philosophers. The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the works of the creator."

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So he believed actually completely in the divine concept, divine personality. But unfortunately, this experiment has been misinterpreted by these demoniac scientists.