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| Prabhupāda: Topless, bottomless. That is going on. It is a regular policy that girls may remain unmarried, and the drunkards and the meat-eaters may take advantage of their prostitution. This is the policy. They have no sympathy. So many hundreds and thousands of innocent girls, they're like children. And they're exposed to prostitution. They have no shelter. Now these girls who are with us, they're feeling some shelter, you see? That we are giving some shelter. | | Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. That is our propaganda that, "This is the standard of leadership. So if you elect first-class leader, then your government will be first class. But if you elect some rogues and thieves, drunkards, then how you can expect good government?" This is natural. After all, democracy means the public elect. The public does not know how to distinguish the rogues and thieves. |
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| Everything should be reformed: political, social, and be, you American nation—you're favored nation, that I am always speaking—you should utilize the favor of God and be yourself perfect, and be leader of the whole world. Anyone who is not believer in God, he should be punished. Because he's animal. He is animal, and he is posing himself as human being. Cheater. Human life is meant for tapasya, for understanding God. That is human life. This dog's life, cat's life, this is not human life. If you become a very powerful tiger, is that human life? They're thinking like that, "If I become as strong as a tiger, then there we are perfect nation." Then what is the use of tiger? It is simply kill only. What other intelligence he has got?
| | Therefore the rogues and thieves take the advantage of it and, somehow or other, and take vote and sit on the presidential chair. That is difficulty. Just like our propaganda is . . . we are not making any propaganda in the beginning that, "Stop this cow slaughter." We are educating people, "Don't eat meat." If people become educated, automatically the slaughterhouse will be closed. This is our propaganda. "Don't drink." So if people give up drinking, automatically the drinking business will be closed. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. (Prabhupāda gets in the car) |
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| So in your country there are so many things to be done. I give you the idea, now you take the leadership. (break) Rascal. Sentimental. Be excel leader. (break) . . . you give up all this material advancement. But there must be Kṛṣṇa consciousness, otherwise it is waste of time. Live very comfortably, gentlemanly. Kṛṣṇa never says that, "You live like wretched urchins." Kṛṣṇa never says that. Yuktāhāra-vihārasya yogo bhavati siddhaye ([[Vanisource:BG 6.17 (1972)|BG 6.17]]). And this was practically introduced by my Guru Mahārāja, that living in palatial building and riding on first-class cars, one can become the best devotee. Not that one has to live underneath a tree, imitating Rūpa Gosvāmī. That is not possible in this age.
| | Prajāpati: You have given us this instruction, Śrīla Prabhupāda, to confront these leaders. We understand that this is your very much wish, and we shall do everything we can to try to fulfill your desire. |
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| That is the contribution of my Guru Mahārāja, yes, that if one is sincere he can remain a first-class devotee even in this material opulence. And if he would not have introduced, then it was not possible to come here and preach this gospel. That because the principle was to live underneath a tree, go to Vṛndāvana and have loincloth, just like the bābājīs are imitating. No. Even in full material opulence we can become a perfect devotee, provided you follow the principles. It doesn't matter. Gṛhe vā . . . it was sung by Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura long ago, gṛhe vā banete ṭhāke. Either you live in the forest or in the city, opulent city, the business is gaurāṅga bole rākhe: always thinking of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Narottama māge tāra saṅga. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says: "I want their association, who is a devotee of Lord Gaurāṅga." It doesn't matter whether he lives in the forest or in the opulent city. It doesn't matter. He must be devotee. (break)
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| Household life or in city life we should not be extravagant, unnecessarily eating, unnecessarily enjoying. No, that is not the path. "One man's food, another man's poison." We must know this philosophy. (break) . . . and even we . . . my health is not always going on nicely. Still, why I am trying? That is my ambition. I want to begin one revolution. Their godless civilization, against godless civilization. That is my ambition.
| | Devotees: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break) |
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| And the America will be the best person to be educated in this line and to lead, to become the leader. They're already leader, but they must be real leader now, so that the whole world may be happy. That I can give direction. If the topmost American gentlemen come to me, I can give them direction how they can become the world leader. Actual leader, not bogus leader. Because God has favored them so many things. And this movement has been started from America. I started this movement from New York. So it should be taken very seriously by the government.
| | Prabhupāda: If you can educate the people, "Don't vote for the rascals. Just try to understand who is the real man, who is the real leader." |
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| | Hṛdayānanda: So political program is very important. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes. If the public is educated to select right type of leader, then automatically . . . and it is very easy thing that, "Leader must be faithful. A leader must know what is God and how to trust in Him. And he must be free from all sinful activities. The pillars of sinful activities are these." This is our propaganda. |
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