Prabhupāda: He likes me. (laughter) Simply his only objection is that I am very conservative. He said: "Swāmī, you are very conservative." Because I forbid so many things. He cannot. Otherwise he would have joined me, but he cannot.
Śyāmasundara: No.
Prabhupāda: He knows that, "Unless I give up all these bad habits, Swāmī will not accept me."
Devotee (1): He is a very enthusiastic chanter.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (1): Oh, we were in this chapel chanting.
Prabhupāda: He was there?
Devotee (1): Yes, he was there. He came down on stage, jumping up and down, "Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa." Then he took prasādam. He was very enthusiastic.
Prabhupāda: No, he has promised to me that, "Wherever I shall go, I shall chant." That he has promised.
Śyāmasundara: He's going to be . . . he gave me his address in California, so he'll be living there for some time.
Prabhupāda: I asked him that if he was there he can see me again. Our mission is very nice. We want to see everyone happy. We don't want anything from anyone. We don't say that, "You give me fee, then I give you some mantra." No, we don't say like that. Our instruction is free. I want to see that they are doing it and they are happy, that's all. Rādhā-kṛṣṇa bolo, saṅge calo, ei-mātra bhikhā cāi (from Gītāvalī), this Bhaktivinoda's, "You simply chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and come with me. This much I want. I don't want anything else."
Śyāmasundara: So one who is mad after something else material, mad after this or that . . .
Prabhupāda: It is perverted.
Śyāmasundara: And he must transfer his love . . . madness to Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: That madness should be for Kṛṣṇa.