Caraṇāravindam: Whenever I visited a village in India, people were always very friendly. "Sit down, take some meal." Or if I walk through a field they will pick something from a tree, some tomatoes, or some vegetables and give it to me.
Prabhupāda: You can grow some tomatoes here. That is a very easy thing.
Caraṇāravindam: I have also some and some different seeds to plant.
Prabhupāda: Tomato, squash.
Caraṇāravindam: You would like to see growing in your garden a little sabji?
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is very... Cucumber. These things can be grown very easily. And zucchini. Called zucchini?
Hari-śauri: Yes. It's like a small marrow, zucchini.
Caraṇāravindam: I would like to get, I don't know...
Prabhupāda: No, there is not much place here.
Caraṇāravindam: Some things we can grow.
Prabhupāda: But this green banana if we get that will be nice.
Caraṇāravindam: These should flower soon, these bananas. They are one year old now. Within the next six months they should give some flowers.
Prabhupāda: So it is very pleasing spot. You have done nice. I'm feeling nice.
Hari-śauri: Your pleasure is our pleasure.
Caraṇāravindam: It is your mercy. It is ecstasy to come in here and do something on the garden for you. Very good. I want to see lotuses growing. Then I will be happy. Nice lotuses. When I can pick a lotus and give to you, then it is nice. Then it is finished. Lilies, lotus, nice bushes, very happy inside. This grass has just been laid and I think after two weeks it will be very first class.
Prabhupāda: Nobody should walk.
Caraṇāravindam: No. I have still this section here to finish of nice turf. And then watering twice a day.
Prabhupāda: And due to this fountain it will be very nice, green always.
Caraṇāravindam: And I will sprinkle it with gobar water. Gobar mixed with water and sprinkle. That will be good for...
Prabhupāda: Is there any good painter here?
Hari-śauri: Artist? Who is here?
Prabhupāda: Artist?
Caraṇāravindam: Devotee?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Caraṇāravindam: One new boy that just came.
Prabhupāda: So I want his service. I want to paint that picture which is published in that French Back to Godhead.
Hari-śauri: Oh. The portrait?
Prabhupāda: Not portrait. That I was beating on my... What is called? That dundubhi we call it. What do you call this. Bango? Bang?
Hari-śauri: Oh, gong?
Prabhupāda: Not gong. It is one side covered with skin.
Caraṇāravindam: Like a tambourine.
Hari-śauri: No, it's... You mean a drum...
Prabhupāda: Drum. Not two-sides. One side.
Hari-śauri: Like a tom-tom drum.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So that picture is very nice. If somebody paints it will be...
Caraṇāravindam: I wish I could make the mālatī grow faster and the ratnavani.(?) I wish I could make it grow faster to give perfume. It is not like painting a picture. You can paint the flower and the creeper and the tree very quickly, but when you are growing it and you have the idea and no plant, it takes so many years for it to come to a finish.
Prabhupāda: And who is growing it? That is Kṛṣṇa's hand. His hand is working invisibly. Kṛṣṇa's hand is there. Kṛṣṇa says, mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram (BG 9.10). "I am giving direction to the nature and she is manufacturing." That's a fact.
Caraṇāravindam: And He paints wonderful flowers with perfume.
Prabhupāda: Anything, anything. Kṛṣṇa is giving dictation, "Do like this." Intelligence is of Kṛṣṇa.
- mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ
- sūyate sa-carācaram
- hetunānena kaunteya
- jagad viparivartate
- (BG 9.10)
Caraṇāravindam: Lord Caitanya, He had the mango tree grow almost instantly with His direction.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He can do that because He is Kṛṣṇa. Immediately He can do. That is His inconceivable energy. Now by medical treatment man is made into woman, and woman is made man. Is it not?
Hari-śauri: Yes, there was that article in the Blitz the other day.
Prabhupāda: So formerly, by simply desire of very exalted person like Lord Śiva and others, they could turn a man into woman, woman into man.
Hari-śauri: I heard a story, Viśvāmitra once he grew people from trees. Is that correct?
Prabhupāda: Everything is possible by Kṛṣṇa's inconceivable energy. Everything is possible. That is inconceivable. It is called therefore "inconceivable." You, we cannot conceive how it is done. Our intelligence is very little. We cannot conceive. Therefore we say, "Oh, this is all mythology." Because we cannot conceive of it. Whatever we cannot conceive we take it as mythology. Nothing is mythology. Everything is possible. That is inconceivable. But they cannot understand what is inconceivable. Unless it is conceivable by them, they do not accept. That is their foolishness. We can see at night worms or flies so small Just like if you divide one grain of rice into one hundred divisions one division—such a small fly. They are independently walking, flying. Freedom. Now just imagine how their anatomic physiology is manufactured within that small (indistinct) of life. But he's exactly doing everything just like a big fly. How it is doing? Therefore I said in that, my interview.
Hari-śauri: Oh. "They can manufacture a jumbo jet but they can't make a mosquito. Neither can they supply the pilot."
Prabhupāda: And the mosquito is with the pilot. They are manufacturing jumbo 747 plane. It requires a pilot separately. But Kṛṣṇa is manufacturing an airplane, mosquito—everything complete, with pilot. This is inconceivable. You can manufacture a big airplane. The pilot is separate. You cannot manufacture the pilot. Kṛṣṇa is manufacturing not only the smallest airplane, but with a pilot. This is inconceivable.
Caraṇāravindam: Also he makes those, you wrote in the Bhāgavatam there are those giant birds that fly in space.
Prabhupāda: And there will be hundreds and thousands mosquitos, they will fly. There will be no accident.
Hari-śauri: No collisions.
Prabhupāda: No. Anywhere it will be... Not only flies. The birds, when they flock together, so there is no collision. And they very forcibly go like this, this, this, this, all together, but you won't find one accident. And this is Kṛṣṇa's inconceivable energy. What you can do? You cannot fly hundreds of planes at a time. There will be at least three, four accidents.
Caraṇāravindam: They have great difficulty doing these air displays. Many planes flying together, these air displays. There is so much difficulty for them. A lot of them, they have accidents. Also...
Prabhupāda: Formerly I used to see three, four, more than four flies going together. Nowadays I do not see.
Caraṇāravindam: Flies.
Prabhupāda: No, aeroplanes. During wartime when they used to come to bombard they used to come in four, five together because the enemies, they used to shot down. So if one is shot down the other will be bombing.
Caraṇāravindam: You wrote in the Bhāgavatam, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that in outer space there are those giant birds like eagle. Very, very big. Giant size. Enormous.
Prabhupāda: They go from one planet to another.
Caraṇāravindam: It is like a big plane. Bigger than jet.
Prabhupāda: And while flying they lay down eggs. And the eggs, while falling down, they become birds. By the, what is called?
Hari-śauri: Friction?
Prabhupāda: No, no. When they, what it is called. Velocity of falling down, it becomes fomented, and then the birds come out. Just like parasites. No? Parachute?
Hari-śauri: Yes, parachute.
Prabhupāda: While falling down, it opens. This is God's creation. Inconceivable. And that aeroplane, flying machine, is so perfect.
Caraṇāravindam: And it will find its own food.
Prabhupāda: There are birds who can take away the elephant for eating. Such big birds. They can carry elephant like a small rat.
Caraṇāravindam: Is such a bird the bird that was a servant of Sītā?
Prabhupāda: And monkey-eating birds I have seen in Los Angeles. They go very high on the top of a tree and capture a monkey. And take him high and drop him. As soon as he falls he dies, then again comes down and eats it.
Caraṇāravindam: We need one of those birds here to capture these monkeys.
Prabhupāda: There are so many wonderful creations. That is God's inconceivable energy. (end)