Gurukṛpa: Juhu Beach is a big beach.
Prabhupāda: Hm. Yes. (break) ...I told you, in my childhood I was consulting the time table, "What is the fare of Jagannātha Purī and Vṛndāvana?" (chuckles)
Gurukṛpa: You said it was two rupees.
Prabhupāda: No, not two rupees. Jagannātha Purī at that time was four rupees, four annas or one anna. And Vṛndāvana was six rupees.
Gurukṛpa: Six.
Prabhupāda: Six rupees from Calcutta. So I was dreaming "When I get this four rupees or six rupees, I shall go." (break)
Gurukṛpa: That is not material.
Bali-mardana: You were desiring to worship... You were worshiping Jagannātha, weren't you?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Rathayātrā.
Bali-mardana: You wanted to go and visit Purī?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break)
Gurukṛpa: All the people come out on their porch and they watch us. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...see (sea?), you can... Water is so clear, ten feet down you can see clear.
Gurukṛpa: Here.
Prabhupāda: Any sea anywhere. When I was traveling by ship, I used to see ten feet down crystal clear. It is very clear water.
Gurukṛpa: But you cannot drink it.
Prabhupāda: That is God's supremacy. "If I don't give you water to drink, you cannot drink." And still, they are independent. Just see the fun. Even water, three-fourths of water, you cannot use a drop of water for drinking unless God gives you. He creates the cloud and give you. That is not your arrangement. You cannot do. Still they are independent. Jale kali-vāsa, nāme tila phyāsa. Sometimes sailors,(?) for being thirsty, they died in water. How they declare independence from Him? "There is no God. There is no authority. We are independent. We can do whatever we like." Childish.