Hṛdayānanda: Sometimes they argue that, "God has revealed Himself within my heart, so I don't need to read any books because I have a special connection with God."
Prabhupāda: But your revelation and my revelation different. Why?
Hṛdayānanda: "Well, because God has so many different aspects that He reveals a different aspect to everyone."
Prabhupāda: That is their argument.
Hṛdayānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Then what is the standard of that aspect? Just like in the material world we see, somebody richer than other. This is also aspect of material situation. So if one is millionaire, he is better than a person who has got a few coins. So similarly, your realization of God and my realization of God, different. So I may be greater realized than you. What do you say, theologian?
Prajāpati: Well, today, Prabhupāda most of the literature is written on subjects of death of God, an eclipse of God, the fact that the people in general, it's a secular society and no one is even discussing God.
Prabhupāda: That means they have failed. After discussing, when they could not find out actually what is God, they have given up the idea. Failure.
Prajāpati: They think of it as actually a maturity. "We needed to talk about God when we were infants, and now we are advanced."
Prabhupāda: So maturity, you must give what is that standard God, if it is mature. Mature means you must give the real standard. That is mature. But if nobody of you can give the what is the real standard, then how it is mature? Bali-mardana Prabhu, what do you think? Mature means the final conclusion. Just like in scientific theory, all the scientists come into conclusion, "Yes, this is the . . ."
Bali-mardana: It's just an excuse because they don't know.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Yes, they don't know. That's it.