Prabhupāda: You should not be so proud falsely—that is our point—and mislead others that there is no God. Because you are accepted as authority, scientist, if you say that there is no God, they will accept it. Then our back to Godhead movement is stopped. Then we must stop your also nonsense. It is a fight. Because you say there is no God, and we say you are all nonsense. We must say it. You are challenging; we must challenge. But you accept God, then we have nothing . . . I think Sir Isaac Newton said like that, "The vast knowledge, we have simply gathered a few grains of sand on the beach of knowledge," something like that. That is good.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, humble.
Prabhupāda: That is good. But how you can say there is no God, everything is science? And misleading people. That must be stopped. You take credit as much as you have done. That we are ready to give you. Because you have created one aeroplane, 747, therefore you can do everything, if you do . . . like that, that is misleading. That we cannot . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, once that very concept that they will be able to do all these things, if that is removed, then they come on the platform as . . .
Prabhupāda: Sane man. They are talking like insane man.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: But their inspiration is that we can always do something bigger and better than we've done before.
Prabhupāda: But still you cannot do in the final. That is not possible. Because you are finite. You are not infinite. Your knowledge is limited. You can do something up to some extent.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: They agree that . . . they all agree that . . .
Prabhupāda: They are giving bluff, "Yes, we shall produce life. Wait for millions of years. Wait for millions." This is nonsense. Who will wait for millions of years and see your scientific discovery?
Rūpānuga: Well, they'll say: "Yes, we are finite, but we can work together, combinedly together, and make great progress, scientific progress, all working together, every nation."
Prabhupāda: You cannot do anything which is beyond your power. But you are limited, your power is limited. That you must agree. Your power is not unlimited. You are finite. That you must admit.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: Then they say: "Yes, we may be limited, and our inductive process may be imperfect, but, you may criticize, but you have to show us something better."
Prabhupāda: I may not show, but as I give you example, that you have manufactured 747 and God has manufactured mosquito. You do that. We are . . . I am layman, but I see there is another, better manufacturer than you. I may be layman, but I can see that you cannot do it. If you say you can do it, then you are rascal. I must say that you are a rascal. First of all do, then speak. You take your credit, as much as you have done. But if you want to take the place of God, then we must slap you right and left. (laughter) That is our business. Because we cannot give better credit than God to anyone. That is our business. Asamordhva. There is nobody equal to God, nobody is greater than God. This is our preaching. So you cannot claim equal to God. No question of becoming greater than God. You cannot become even equal to God. You are always under. You admit it, then we have no quarrel with you. You admit that, "Yes, we are under God," then we are friends.