Gurukṛpā: And they will say, "If we read it all, we'll become brainwashed too." They'll say, "You're trying to brainwash us also."
Prabhupāda: That is my duty. You are trying to brain, my brainwash; I am trying yours. That is going on. That is the tussle. You are trying your best. It is a wrestling. You are trying your strength; I am trying my strength. That is... Otherwise where there is fight? There is no question of fight. You don't agree with me; I don't agree with you. You have got right to not agree with me; I have got right not to agree with you. Now let us settle.
Hari-śauri: Well, the thing Rāmeśvara Mahārāja was saying was that they're bringing all these psychiatrists and psychologists in to make so many statements.
Prabhupāda: Let them bring. We have got our own psychiatrists.
Hari-śauri: He was saying in order to defeat them, we have to bring in other psychiatrists and psychologists.
Prabhupāda: The psychiatrists mean... Do you mean to say whatever they will say, we have to accept?
Satsvarūpa: Well, they're considered authorities.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Satsvarūpa: The foolish public considers them authorities of behavior and the mind.
Prabhupāda: Then everyone, a psychiatrist's recommendation. Even a sane man can be proved that he's a madman by the recommendation of psychiatrist.
Gurukṛpā: Yes.
Gargamuni: Yes, but how can a psychologist judge a religion? That's not his field. They have to bring in scholars whose field is religion.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Then those who are supporting us, our books, they are also.
Satsvarūpa: Yes, we have many witnesses.
Prabhupāda: They are also madmen.
Hari-śauri: So many big professors.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: Dr. Harvey Cox.
Prabhupāda: They have to be dismissed by the government from the post. "Why you are keeping so many madmen as big, big...?"
Satsvarūpa: Yes. Those who have supported us, then they're also madmen.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gargamuni: They must be fired immediately.
Prabhupāda: Yes. We have brainwashed. They are brainwashed. So they should be dismissed.
Gargamuni: Even Jimmy Carter, he gave one "Thank you for this book."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Satsvarūpa: One man is our favor said, "If they are brainwashed, then all the people of the East..."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Satsvarūpa: "...millions of..."
Prabhupāda: Brainwashed.
Satsvarūpa: "...millions of people, they have to be considered brainwashed."
Gurukṛpā: You should drop the bomb.
Prabhupāda: Stop your Christian propaganda. Why you are doing that?
Hari-śauri: They should deprogram everybody.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: So if you want to go for guru-pūjā, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (end)