Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, it records how it is moving, how it is going up and down. So that has been proved. The machine is hanged in the tree, and the tree is cut, and immediately makes a mark. Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose has discovered the machine.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Generally at least, though, we associate the heart with an organ that simply pumps blood and oxygen throughout the body, but the biologists contend that certain bodies and certain species of life have no such circulatory system, pumping blood or even oxygen.
Prabhupāda: Why not?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Well, that's the contention at present.
Prabhupāda: Hm. But we can take that...
Guru-kṛpā: Like a worm. If you cut a worm in half, both parts of the worm will go on living.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Guru-kṛpā: You take one worm, you cut it, and both parts will go on living. You cut it in three places, and it will all live.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So what is the wrong there?
Guru-kṛpā: Then there's three hearts?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Immediately manufactured as soon as the living enters. Their chemical composition is that, that even you cut a living entity, he can enter. The living entity enters through the semina of the father in the womb of the mother, the same process. Unless the living entity enters, the body does not form. It is matter only. When the living entity enters, then the formation takes place according to his mind. What do they know about it? Hm? Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaran bhāvaṁ tyajaty ante kalevaram (BG 8.6). The matter simply is set up according to the desire. Just like we have constructed this big house according to my desire. The matter has not taken shape like this big house automatically. I am the proprietor. I desire: "Let the rooms be like this." Similarly, the material elements, the semina of the father and the ova of the mother, mix. It creates a suitable, what is called, cement, and now, according to the desire of the living being, he'll settle. Not that the cement automatically becomes a room or pipe or this or that. Cement is cement, the same thing, earth, water, air, fire. By mixture it becomes so convenient that it takes a shape and becomes a different body, a different body for the man, a different body for the animal.... (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. Thank you.
Mike Barron: A little crooked. Jaya. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: Thank you.
Devotee (3): Śrīla Prabhupāda, this is Mr. Mike Barron. He is from one of the television stations here, and he wants to do an interview on you for the news tonight, which is seen by many, many thousands of people here at home.
Prabhupāda: You have seen this news?
Mike Barron: Yes, I've seen this morning's. Fairly similar, just to talk about the movement. Are you happy with the way it's going here?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mike Barron: Just along those lines.
Guru-kṛpā: What do you think of that article?
Mike Barron: A bit facetious. A bit facetious. I didn't like it very much.
Prabhupāda: You liked?
Mike Barron: No.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Mike Barron: Er, a bit facetious. They had a funny way of doing it.
Prabhupāda: Funny way, but it is very serious. It requires little intelligence...
Devotee (3): Like to sit there?
Prabhupāda: ...that this body is a lump of matter, and the consciousness, or the living pulse, that is different. Can you prove that they are not? Eh?
Mike Barron: No.