Bhāgavata: Would you like to return?
Prabhupāda: No, we shall go. The, what is called, evolution theory... Darwin said they take from monkey. But they do not know wherefrom the monkey comes. Does he give it chronologically?
Satsvarūpa: No. They say that both humans and monkeys come from a common ancestor. But they don't know what that is.
Prabhupāda: Who was your ancestor? (laughter) Jalajā nava-lakṣāni sthāvarā lakṣa-vimśati. There is chronological order followed: first of all aquatics, then trees and plants, then insects, then reptiles, and in this way, then birds, then beasts, then human being. Which way? This? No.
Bhāgavata: If you want to go out, this way. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...it from Padma Purāṇa, and he has explained in his own imagination. The idea has been taken from Padma Purāṇa because the Padma Purāṇa, it is already there, evolution. Asatiṁ caturaṁś caiva. Eighty-four lakṣa means hundred thousand, 8,400,000. That is also given. Where is that, that Darwin's theory?
Bhāgavata: They have no number of species.
Prabhupāda: Imperfect idea. He wanted to credit himself. He has stolen the idea from Padma Purāṇa and wanted to explain in his own way, imagination, speculation.
Bhāgavata: The actual evolution is that the soul goes...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bhāgavata: ...from the species, from one species to another in chronological order.
Gurukṛpa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, even if they... In all their researches, if they came across this information, I don't think they would reveal it to the world.
Prabhupāda: How they would reveal? They are thieves and rogues. Their idea is: three thousand years ago there was no civilization. This is their poor idea.
Bhāgavata: (break) I was speaking with him. He's an Indian here in Bhuvaneśvara. He said Vyāsa could not have written the Vedas five thousand years ago because writing did not start till 2,500 years ago. I said, "What is your proof?" He said, "Because we can see in the caves the markings, and these things did not come till 2,500 years ago." I said, "Do you think Vyāsa was a cave man, that he was banging on the walls with hammers?" So I said, "He is a great professor." He said, "No, no. Actually Vyāsa is not even a person. He's only a school." So I said, "Well, you do not understand." These are very atheistic type of people. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...taking Bhagavad-gītā as some imaginary writing, a school, thinking that.
Satsvarūpa: "A work of many hands," they say.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Satsvarūpa: "Not one author."
Prabhupāda: They do not take it that Kṛṣṇa is God and He's speaking. They do not believe. "God is imperson."
Bhāgavata: His only proof was carbon dating, and that carbon dating has already been proven wrong so many times.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Bhāgavata: Can prajāpatis give birth to different species of animal life from their own bodies?
Prabhupāda: Hm. Yes.
Satsvarūpa: Prajāpatis, humans, they give birth to animals in the beginning.