Guest (1): A sādhu. It is absurd. (laughing)
Prabhupāda: That is absurd.
Guest (1): Two contradictory terms.
Prabhupāda: Therefore Arjuna was ridiculed. "What is this nonsense?" Kutas tvā kaśmalam idam: "You have come to fight. You are talking nonsense, that 'I will not fight.' " Kṛṣṇa did not approve.
Guest (1): He told... He defined "What is your dharma and what is niṣkāma akarma." So it's very difficult to define dharma, but once it is defined, there should be no difficulty.
Prabhupāda: No, dharma is there. Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66). That is dharma. And everything is cheating. That... Because we are teaching that, that only dharma is to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, therefore we are not very much liked. They are of opinion, "Why Kṛṣṇa is God? I have got this God. I have got this, so many incarnations." This is...
Guest (2): Why do you say we are not very much liked? The movement is spreading.
Prabhupāda: Because we are fools.
Guest (2): But the movement is spreading, I am saying. I Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is spreading.
Prabhupāda: Movement will spread, undoubtedly, because it is genuine.
Guest (2): It is spreading because we are liked.
Guest (1): No, sir, there you are also correct. I would say this, that these American boys and young girls who have come here, because this, our mind is conditioned into inferiority complex or slave-minded person, everything which is adopted there must be...
Prabhupāda: No, we are also slaves, but we are slave of the right person.
Guest (1): Yes, of the Supreme.
Prabhupāda: That is the difference. And they are slaves of their senses. That is the difference. We are not master. We are also slaves. But we are slaves of the person who is perfect, and they are slaves of their senses.
Guest (2): The spread of the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement in Bombay in the last three, four years has been... I don't know, you may not be satisfied, but I think it's quite good.