Prabhupāda: It is not so cheap, that anyone can comment on Kṛṣṇa, whimsically, and he becomes a devotee. That is not possible. That is going on. I can interpret in my own way. Kṛṣṇa says, mām ekam. (indistinct) Somebody is taking Kṛṣṇa is black, somebody is taking Kṛṣṇa as something else. Who says Kṛṣṇa is black? Who told me?
Mahāṁsa: Cinmayananda.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa means "black." Sapta nuraman pure sita kar baba. (?) One has studied all the Rāmāyaṇa, seven cantos, seven khandas, and he is asking, "Whose father is Sītā?" Sītā is a feminine, and the Rāmāyaṇa expert is asking, "Whose father is Sītā?" This is their education, they are becoming big lecturer on Bhagavad-gītā, he has understood Kṛṣṇa means "black." And people are following him blindly. Big swamiji is speaking.
Guest: Can we (indistinct).
Mahāṁsa: Kṛṣṇa means, actually in Sanskrit, one of the meanings of the word Kṛṣṇa...
Guest: That is...
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa is all-attractive, that he will not explain. In the Brahma-saṁhitā, it is said, asitāmbuda-sundarāṅgam kandarpa-koṭi-kamanīya-viśeṣa-śobhaṁ (Bs. 5.30). Asitām, sundaram. He is blackish, but He is so attractive, more attractive than many millions of Cupid.
Guest: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: No, no. Why you should commit offense like that? It is a great offense to decry Kṛṣṇa.
Guest: (indistinct) ...describe Him as blackish or black.
Prabhupāda: But why does he say Kṛṣṇa means black?
Guest: Kṛṣṇa means black, (Hindi) Somebody questioned me: "What is Kṛṣṇa means?" Then apart from this, Sanskrit reply he gave: "Kṛṣṇa means black also."
Prabhupāda: So why did he not say Kṛṣṇa means all-attractive?
Guest: As far as Kṛṣṇa's features are concerned, we know it is (indistinct) black. (indistinct)
Mahāṁsa: The last time we had come here, I had come to just see on the first day what he says. So on the first day he said that now we'll have a gītā-jñāna yajña, and he said we will take the ślokas which are suitable and which ślokas are not suitable...
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Mahāṁsa: ...we'll reject those ślokas.
Prabhupāda: Not suitable.
Mahāṁsa: I heard that with my own ears. He said...
Guest: From Bhagavad-gītā?
Mahāṁsa: Yes. He said "We will take the ślokas which are suitable and which are not suitable, we'll reject those ślokas."
Prabhupāda: Just see. He is to judge which is suitable, which is not suitable. Just see, this philosophy. Cinmayananda or any ordinary person, he has to judge which śloka is suitable, which is not suitable. That means he is more than Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa has spoken something unsuitable—which he can judge. This is the position.
Guest: I believe that in another sense whatever is written, we should take the sweet from the (?)...
Prabhupāda: There is no sweets...
Guest: ...and if there are some...
Mahāṁsa: Everything is sweet in Bhagavad-gītā.
Guest: ...the other part is there. (indistinct) ...that other part, that meaning be...
Prabhupāda: No. Other part, there is no other part. There is only one part. Just like Kṛṣṇa says that
- na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ
- prapadyante narādhamāḥ
- māyayāpahṛta-jñānā
- āsuriṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ
- (BG 7.15)
So there is no other part. It is direct meaning. If anyone who has not surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, he is either duṣkṛtinaḥ, mūḍhāḥ, narādhamāḥ, māyayāpahṛta-jñānā, asuriṁ bhāvam.
Guest: (indistinct) Don't attack the part of death. (indistinct)
Mahāṁsa: He was going to (indistinct) ślokas. He said he will not accept ślokas which are, we can accept, those which we cannot accept we will...
Prabhupāda: Reject.
Mahāṁsa: We will go for the next one.
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Mahāṁsa: That was the reference. He was saying, "Now from today onwards, I will start on this chapter and we will go on to these ślokas." He was referring to these ślokas.
Prabhupāda: Now Kṛṣṇa has written Bhagavad-gītā, not written, has spoken Bhagavad-gītā, and He is speaking to me and I have to judge which is suitable? This is, is that my position?
Guest: Perhaps what happens here...
Prabhupāda: No perhaps. He says that "What is suitable, we accept. And not suitable reject." Now who will judge which is suitable and which is not suitable? That is the question.