Hayagrīva: How old is Rūpa Goswami? Is he an old man?
Prabhupāda: Oh, he was old enough. He was not less than fifty years at that time.
Hayagrīva: I see. All right. Anything else in the second scene, fourth act?
Prabhupāda: That is it. And when He is . . . and then He came back to Benares. And . . .
Hayagrīva: Who?
Prabhupāda: Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
Hayagrīva: I thought He stayed in Jagannātha . . . he's not now . . . he left . . .
Prabhupāda: No, from Jagannātha Purī He went to Vṛndāvana. From Vṛndāvana, while coming down again, He first of all came to Prayāg. There He taught Rūpa Gosvāmī. Then when He still came down, He came to Benares.
Hayagrīva: Yes. All right.
Prabhupāda: At Benares He remained for two months. More than two months. And for two months continually He instructed Sanātana Gosvāmī about devotional service. That instruction you'll find in the Teachings of Lord Caitanya. I've written that Teachings of Lord Caitanya?
Hayagrīva: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In that you'll find.
Hayagrīva: Now this third scene, meets Sanātana Gosvāmī, that's in Benares. And Sanātana is how old?
Prabhupāda: Sanātana was older than Rūpa Gosvāmī. He was the eldest. He was not less than about sixty-five or seventy years old. He was old man. Sufficiently old man.
Hayagrīva: Yes. And the instructions to Sanātana Gosvāmī are in the Teachings of Lord Caitanya. All right. Now . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. Similarly, the fourth scene, the teachings with Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī, that is also in there.
Hayagrīva: Who is this?
Prabhupāda: Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī was at Benares. He was a Māyāvādī sannyāsī, Śaṅkara-sampradāya. So he used to . . . this scene should be given that at Benares He was also walking all over the streets and roads, "Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa," and thousands and thousands men were following Him.
This news arrived to Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī, who was the chief sannyāsī there and some of the devotees told, "Oh, a very nice sannyāsī has come to Benares. He's chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa." So Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī deprecated, "Oh! This is a nonsense! Why a sannyāsī should chant and dance? He should concentrate his mind in studying Vedānta. He is a fool." In this way Caitanya Mahāprabhu was criticized.
So one Maharastrian brāhmin, he was devotee of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, he said that, "This incident gave us much pain, sir. If You kindly meet this sannyāsī and talk with him about Vedānta-sūtra, that would be a nice thing."
In the meantime, one brāhmin came and invited Lord Caitanya that "I have invited all the sannyāsīns of Benares, but I know You do not meet these Māyāvādī sannyāsīs, but still I have come to invite You. If You kindly accept my invitation."
So Caitanya Mahāprabhu saw this opportunity of meeting Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī. He accepted his invitation, and there was a meeting, and there was discussion of Vedānta-sūtra with Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī, and He converted him to be a Vaisnava. That is another incident.
Hayagrīva: How old is this man?
Prabhupāda: Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī? He was also old man. Not less than sixty years old. Yes.
Hayagrīva: And what was his role, again, in the town? What was he . . . he was a Vedāntist?
Prabhupāda: Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī. He was a Māyāvādī sannyāsī. He accepted Caitanya Mahāprabhu's principle and he offered his respect. He touched His feet. And he also joined. But there is no mention that he became officially a Vaiṣṇava, but he accepted the philosophy of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. But Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya, officially, he became a Vaiṣṇava. Then Lord Haridāsa meets . . .
Hayagrīva: Fifth scene.
Prabhupāda: Fifth scene.
Hayagrīva: This is Haridāsa Ṭhākura?
Prabhupāda: Haridāsa Ṭhākura.
Hayagrīva: At who's death? At Haridāsa's death?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Haridāsa was very old man. He was Muhammadan.
Hayagrīva: He was the person that was thrown in the river.
Prabhupāda: Yes.