Prabhupāda: You have done nothing good, I say. You have simply wasted time and taken public money, that's all.
Rūpānuga: "We have made some mistakes, but we have produced some good things in medicine and, anyway, you should accept our authority because we have done so many good things."
Prabhupāda: No, because you have done something, that I accept. Just like you have done very good, 747 aeroplane, but just make a mosquito, with pilot and everything. Can you do it? Then why do you take all the credit. Take credit for 747, that's all. But when I ask you, "Create another plane like a fly or mosquito," you are unable to do it. Then why do you take, "There is no God, science is everything." Why do you say like that?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That's why we want to bring up this point that, "Scientists, we are not claiming that you are all nonsense, but you are all good men, but you should know your limits."
Prabhupāda: You should not be so proud falsely—that is our point—and mislead others that there is no God. Because you are accepted as authority, scientist, if you say that there is no God, they will accept it. Then our back to Godhead movement is stopped. Then we must stop your also nonsense. It is a fight. Because you say there is no God, and we say you are all nonsense. We must say it. You are challenging; we must challenge. But you accept God, then we have nothing . . . I think Sir Isaac Newton said like that, "The vast knowledge, we have simply gathered a few grains of sand on the beach of knowledge," something like that. That is good.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, humble.