Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That word "mess," by that word he meant eating, messing, eating?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Messing, there is a system. Some clerks, they make a small cooperative hotel. In India there are many.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That I see in South India sometimes... In places like hotels I see.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Men who work, they all come...
Prabhupāda: Cooperative effort.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So he called that a joint mess, and he said that some of the disciples were doing that.
Prabhupāda: He knew that. What is the use? Tīrtha Mahārāja's defense was that. "These people..." They were fighting with Tīrtha Mahārāja in the court that "Tīrtha Mahārāja was not good." Tīrtha Mahārāja's only defense was "All right, you want to combine to make a guru. All right, why don't you combine yourself for preaching?"
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What was his defense?
Prabhupāda: That "You want to work jointly, so why you do not work jointly? You are jointly working to harass me. Why not preach jointly?"
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What was their reply?
Prabhupāda: No reply.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So it was a good defense.
Prabhupāda: Yes. "You have joined together to defeat me. Why don't you preach jointly? What do you want? That I shall also join and we shall jointly preach. Do this. You are divided amongst yourselves, and you have joined together to defeat me." Śrīdhara Mahārāja is the leader.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Of that group.
Prabhupāda: Mādhava Mahārāja also
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Mādhava Mahārāja is.