Prabhupāda: So Ambarisa Mahārāja, you are feeling all right or not?
Ambarisa: Yes, I am feeling well today.
Prabhupāda: You are taking yogurt? Give him kicheri and yogurt.
Harikesa: He won't eat yogurt. Ambarisa: No, I eat it with that śādhisav, gold(?), mixed in it.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Take yogurt with black pepper and salt. Yes.
Ambarisa: Oh, okay.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. Very good. What is your name?
Indian child: Kīrtana.
Prabhupāda: Kesan?
Indian child: Kīrtana.
Yaśomatīnandana: Kīrtana.
Prabhupāda: Kīrtana, oh.
Girirāja: Actually, he comes and dances in ecstasy in the temple.
Prabhupāda: Very good. Kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ (CC Adi 17.31).
Girirāja: After the kīrtana we read the Kṛṣṇa book, and his parents want to leave, but he insists on staying.
Prabhupāda: Good boy. Very good.
Yaśomatīnandana: What was that, inquired?
Prabhupāda: Eh? What is that?
Yaśomatīnandana: Girirāja was saying something.
Girirāja: Oh, yes, the scientist. When the reporter asked him where the things come from, he said he doesn't know but he's sure that...
Prabhupāda: Still, he is scientist. He doesn't know. He is rascal, still he is scientist. (laughter) Just see. Contradiction. He doesn't know. Still, he is scientist. One word. He doesn't know anything, but he is scientist. Just see. (Hindi) And we have to hear him—the unfortunate position. We say that "Go for scientific knowledge to a person who knows, who has seen." And this rascal, he says, "I do not know; still, I am scientist." Then what he replied? He doesn't know?
Girirāja: But he's sure that they don't need God to explain it.
Prabhupāda: That he knows, how to deny God. That he is expert. And the newspaper reporter accepted this?
Girirāja: No. He didn't express his point of view, but you could see he wasn't satisfied.
Prabhupāda: That is the position. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.
Girirāja: Then he asked him about the future.
Prabhupāda: Future is darkness because these are scientists. He doesn't know; still, he is scientist. Then what is the future? Future is darkness, because a person who doesn't know, he has become leader. The same thing, andha yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ (SB 7.5.31). If a blind man, he becomes the leader of other blind men...
Devotee (2): Actually it's sad that if someone says there is no God then that means that they...
Prabhupāda: He's a dog.
Devotee (2): He's a dog.
Prabhupāda: Yes, immediately. Anyone who says there is no God, then he, immediately he's a dog. That's all.
Yaśomatīnandana: No more words.
Prabhupāda: No more words. He is immediately a dog. That's all.
Devotee (2): If he cannot see throughout the entire universe, from one end of the universe to the other, how can he make the statement that there is no God? He cannot see. And yet they are saying, "I don't know."
Prabhupāda: This is reasonable. (break) ...no God, it is spoken by pagala, mad, mad. In Bengal it is said, pagale ki na bale, chagale ki na khaya. (Hindi) Chagala, goat.
Brahmānanda: "What the goat does not eat?" Is that?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: "What the goat does not eat?"
Prabhupāda: It eats everything, goat.
Brahmānanda: "And what the fool will not speak?"
Prabhupāda: Yes. There is no discrimination. We can go this side. Pagale ki na bale, chagale ki na khaya. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Yaśomatīnandana: Now all these pagalas are making such a big noise all over the world.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma (SB 5.5.4). And doing all kinds of sinful activities—kurute vikarma—because they are pagalas. Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma. It is very difficult there to cross?
Indian man (3): Yes, sir. (break)