Indian man: Swamiji, here is another advocate
Prabhupāda: Now be advocate of Kṛṣṇa. (laughter) Yes. Janma sārthaka kari' kara paropakāra.
Indian man: How long you are going to be in Hyderabad?
Prabhupāda: I am going day after tomorrow.
Indian man: To?
Prabhupāda: I'm going to Delhi.
Indian man: Most of your time you are in the States.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Just now I am coming from Europe. States, Europe, then here.
Indian man: What is the method of attaining permanent and impermanent? Permanent ānanda?
Prabhupāda: That is spiritual life. When you are not enwrapped with this material body, then is ānanda.
Indian man: But that life itself is temporary and then...
Prabhupāda: No, that is not temporary. That is permanent. That is to stay with God. That is permanent.
Indian man: But you will do so only so long as you are in your body, is it not? After you leave the body then probably you might attain mokṣa for a temporary period.
Prabhupāda: No. That is impersonalism. And those who actually go to Godhead, they remain in their spiritual body.
Indian man: Between meditation and kīrtana, which is the easier and...
Prabhupāda: Kīrtana. Yes. Meditation means you'll think of your business and all sleep, snoring. That is meditation. (laughter) (end)