Guest: What would you say is the completion of all design for matter or for human being, and particularly for human being and matter in general, the completion of all design?
Prabhupāda: Matter?
Guest: I said, what is the completion of all becoming, final goal, for a human being and for matter in general?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest: And what happens to matter when it, say, part of it that is, let us say, spiritual attains the realization of...?
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā in the Seventh Chapter. Matter is described as the lower nature of the Supreme Lord, and the spirit soul or the living entities, they are called the higher nature. Now, my present position is that I belong to the higher nature. Now, I am entrapped with the lower nature. So whole mission of my life should be get out of the lower nature and be installed again in my higher nature. That is the whole philosophy.