Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is published in the Indian Express. Good newspaper.
Prabhupāda: Bombay.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bombay. July 12th. There's a lot of touchy items here. One very touchy item is this Hindu-Muslim thing. And this... The Communists are very intelligent. They purposely chose... (break) What about the actual ministers? Cabinet ministers?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Cabinet ministers, there are sober, Morarji Desai and some of them. This Vajpayi.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Vajpayi. That means that they took it that we were a threat. They are feeling the weight of our movement.
Prabhupāda: They are practically seeing that we are going village to village and people are receiving us. So if these Americans push on the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement, naturally people will take it. And that was my idea from the beginning, that if the Americans become Vaiṣṇavas, then others will be. It is four?
Upendra: Three. (break)
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa men. They want Bengal completely godless.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's interesting to see how the Chief Minister Basu, he concentrates on only one point—"They have entered India illegally, which means now they must be asked to leave." That's the only thing he's pointed on, this one point. It's like it indicates his whole motive: "Get them out somehow." Oh, it's a very clever plan. They knew we would defend, and then on the pretext that we're taking the offense, arresting. And they knew already that we were entering with these passports changed. They already knew. Very clever plan. The thing is that this is very, very much harmful to our preaching work for the time being in Bengal.
Prabhupāda: No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I don't think any village will receive us nicely now. They'll think that we're...
Prabhupāda: No. It will be in our favor.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In the long run.
Prabhupāda: No. Very easily.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very what, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Very soon.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That means the truth will come out.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You think the Central Government will take action?
Prabhupāda: I think.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Do you think that we should approach them, or will they do it on their own?
Prabhupāda: No. It is already gone there.