Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Did he make any comment?
Prabhupāda: He cannot make any comment. These are facts. Two parties there were. One party, to use guru as their instrument for self-aggrandizement, and another party left guru. So both of them are offenders. This Kunja Babu, this Tīrtha Mahārāja's party, he wanted to enjoy senses through guru. And the Bagh Bazaar party, they left.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Vāsudeva.
Prabhupāda: So both of them are severe offenders.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What about Śrīdhara Mahārāja?
Prabhupāda: Śrīdhara Mahārāja belonged to the Bagh Bazaar party. And I was living aloof. My Guru Mahārāja approved. He said, "It is better that he is aloof from them."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He could understand that his disciples were not...
Prabhupāda: No, he was very sorry. At the last stage he was disgusted.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But that... That doesn't mean that your disciples should think also, "I will remain aloof just as our Prabhupāda..."
Prabhupāda: No, that I have not said. Therefore I used so strong word on the, our Surabhī's action. This was made independently. He has written. He has given photograph. That is not good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I took that as a good instruction to all of us, your rebuking.
Prabhupāda: I told him that "You cannot do so independent. You are doing nice, but not to do in the... You admit." People complained against Haṁsadūta. Did you know that?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'm not sure of the particular incidences, but I've heard general...
Prabhupāda: In Germany. In Germany.