Prabhupāda: Canada is good or America is good? Which one is good?
Brahmānanda: What's the economic position in Canada?
Prabhupāda: No, economic or not...
Brahmānanda: I think many Canadian young men, they come to America for jobs? No?
Jagadīśa: Many Americans go to Canada.
Jagadīśa: It's more peaceful.
Prabhupāda: Our Jayapatāka, he is American. He went to Canada. Baradrāj is Canadian.
Brahmānanda: Baradrāj, yes.
Prabhupāda: And he has come to America. So there was no war between Canadian and American? In the history?
Jagadīśa: Before the countries actually took their present names and boundaries there were some wars between the French and English. The French and the English settled in this area of North America. Sometimes they fought.
Brahmānanda: What percentage of the popu...
Prabhupāda: Formerly Canada was also American?
Brahmānanda: What percentage is French in Canada?
Jagadīśa: About 15 to 20%. In the province of Quebec it is 100% French.
Satsvarūpa: There's a fawn, Prabhupāda.
Satsvarūpa: A baby deer.
Ambarīṣa: I never expected to see that here.
Jagadīśa: There were two back there.
Prabhupāda: There is peacock also? No.
Ambarīṣa: Possibly in the zoo. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...people, just like China or India. The American invite them, "Come here. Grow your food." Immediately world solution. But they won't... "No, we shall keep it jungle. Still, we shall not allow you to come here." (break) ...come here to hunt. No?
Ambarīṣa: I think they are protected. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...those who were killing tigers and not that, by making arrangement from behind, no.
Brahmānanda: Ah, they would come face to face.
Prabhupāda: Yes, face to face. Yes. Where there is tiger, a kṣatriya, would meet him with a sword. That's all. "Come on. You attack and be killed." Even twenty years before, the king of Jaipur, every year he should go in the forest and kill one tiger personally. And the dead tiger will be brought in procession. He'd be given... Just like a prince or king dies—his body is taken in procession-tiger would be brought that way. Both of them, kṣatriyas... So the tiger should be given the honor of a prince. (break) ...means enemy is going out of fear of life and showing his backside, then he will not be killed. (break) ...into Canada?
Brahmānanda: No, that's Detroit.
Prabhupāda: Oh, that is Detroit.
Brahmānanda: This part is Canada, there.
Prabhupāda: In Canada they grow large quantity of wheat?
Jagadīśa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Brahmānanda: America is now selling wheat to Russia again.
Prabhupāda: Oh. And what exchange they are getting?
Brahmānanda: I don't know how they pay for it. They pay for it in dollars.
Prabhupāda: Now they are no more enemies?
Brahmānanda: They are trying very hard to be friends.
Prabhupāda: Who is trying more? America?
Brahmānanda: I think so.
Ambarīṣa: Yes. They just had a big conference in Finland. They all signed... All the heads of state of the Western countries signed a document saying that they would respect each others' boundaries.
Prabhupāda: Russian boundary, American boundary meets there. What is that? The corner?
Prabhupāda: Alaska. That boundary? No.
Brahmānanda: No. This is in regards to Europe, isn't it?
Jagadīśa: Eastern Europe. America finally agreed to recognize that...
Prabhupāda: East Berlin.
Jagadīśa: Eastern Europe is under Russian dominance and should stay that way.
Prabhupāda: So the Eastern countries, they agree?
Brahmānanda: Well, they don't have much opportunity to disagree.
Jagadīśa: Actually, the Russians were the host of the conference.
Brahmānanda: And they received the benefit.
Prabhupāda: That means they are commanding.
Brahmānanda: Recently one famous author came to America. He was a freedom fighter, freedom author.
Satsvarūpa: Prabhupāda knows about him.
Brahmānanda: Solzhenitsyn. Did you see him when you went to Moscow? Śyāmasundara was saying.
Prabhupāda: No. There was proposal.
Brahmānanda: He talks so much, Śyāmasundara. He told a whole story, that you went outside Moscow to some colony, artist colony. He was living there.
Prabhupāda: I think Śyāmasundara went to see him.
Brahmānanda: Oh. Anyway, he came to America, but President Ford refused to see him.
Brahmānanda: Because he was afraid. He was advised by Kissinger that "If you see him, then the Russian leaders, they will become angry upon you." So he refused to see him. So this received a great deal of criticism in America, that "We are for freedom and here he is coming, freedom fighter, and you refused to see him simply to pacify the Russian leaders." (break)
Prabhupāda: ...was a fault?
Satsvarūpa: His fault is that he spoke out against the whole Russian...
Brahmānanda: He speaks very strongly, condemns the Russian system.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Russian, it is terrorism.
Brahmānanda: Yes. And he says that America should not become, try to become friendly, but should try to defeat them.
Prabhupāda: So Russian government did not take any step against him?
Brahmānanda: They exiled him. He was too famous to... If they persecuted him, he was too famous. It would have brought a lot of criticism against them, so they exiled.
Prabhupāda: Asked him to go out.
Satsvarūpa: He is officially a nonperson in Russia.
Brahmānanda: He has no longer any existence.
Jagadīśa: The Americans are playing right into their hands because now the Americans won't meet the man.
Jagadīśa: The Americans should have taken advantage and given the man a great welcome, but they refused to see him. (break)