Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: How the eternal spirit soul becomes so completely absorbed that he completely forgets about the future and simply he becomes absorbed in some temporary sense gratification?
Prabhupāda: That is material existence. Material existence means to satisfy senses. That is material existence. Don't you see that everyone is planning for some material . . . just that one man is the . . . Tamāla Kṛṣṇa was saying that he was eating motorcar. Just see. (laughter)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Grinding up a motorcar.
Prabhupāda: What is the meaning of this? But he is desiring like that, that "I shall be famous man by eating motorcar."
Gurudāsa: He's desiring for fame.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Everyone can understand, "What is the use of this fame?" but he is desiring. This is going on. That is the cause of his bondage. This life he's desiring to eat motorcar, next life he is desiring to eat something, enjoy something, varieties of mano-dharma, mental concoction, and that is his bondage. Kṛṣṇa is so kind; whatever he desires, he is given the facility: "All right, take it."
Gurudāsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it more natural to love someone else . . .
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Gurudāsa: Is it more natural for someone else to enjoy or for ourselves to enjoy?
Prabhupāda: No, it is personal, our. You are desiring something, and you get the opportunity.
Gurudāsa: So then to love Kṛṣṇa is unnatural?
Prabhupāda: Yes. No, that is natural, and everything else unnatural. The principle of loving Kṛṣṇa is distributed in so many ways. Instead of loving Kṛṣṇa, loving so many nonsense things, and we are becoming implicated. The principle is love, but instead of loving the right person, you are loving so many things.