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This is His determination to incarnate as Lord Caitanya?

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"This is His determination to incarnate as Lord Caitanya"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1967 Conversations and Morning Walks

Lord Caitanya, yes... In order to appreciate Kṛṣṇa in the form of gopī. Just like I have got dealings with you. So you have got your individuality, I have got my individuality, but if I want to study how you are so much obedient and loving to me, then I have to go to your position. It is very natural psychology. Yes. You have to paint in that way.


Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco:

Prabhupāda: So next scene is rāsa dance. Rāsa dance means Kṛṣṇa and Rādhārāṇī in the center, and the gopīs, they are surrounding. You have seen that surrounding scene they were dancing the other day in the park, hand to hand.

Hayagrīva: Yes, yes.

Prabhupāda: So one Kṛṣṇa and one gopī, they are dancing. That scene be, scene should be . . . then the rāsa dance should be stopped, and Kṛṣṇa will talk with the gopīs. Kṛṣṇa will say to the gopīs that, "My dear friends, you have come to Me in this dead of night. It is not very good, because it is the duty of every woman to please her husband.

So what your husband will think that you have come in such dead of night? A woman's duty is not to give up her husband, even he is not of good character or if he is unfortunate, if he is old or if he is diseased. Still, husband is worshiped by the wife. So you have come here, it is very sinful. So you . . . people will decry it. Please go back. Now we have finished."

So in this way the gopīs will reply that, "You cannot request us to go back, because with great difficulty and with great, I mean to say, ecstatic desire we have come to You, and it is not Your duty to ask us to go back." In this way you arrange some talking that Kṛṣṇa is asking them to go back, but they are insisting, "No, let us continue our rāsa dance."

Then when the rāsa dance is finished, the gopīs will go, then Kṛṣṇa in His halilaki says that "They are My heart and soul, these gopīs. They are so sincere devotees that they do not care for family encumbrances and all . . . any bad name. They come to Me. So how shall I repay them?"

He was thinking, "How shall I repay their so ecstatic love?" So He thought that "I cannot repay them unless and until I take up their situation to understand Me. Because I Myself cannot understand Me, I have to take the position of the gopīs, how they are loving Me."

So with that consideration He took the form of Lord Caitanya. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is blackish; Lord Caitanya is of the color of the gopīs. The whole life of Lord Caitanya is representation of gopīs' love towards Kṛṣṇa. That should be painted in that picture.

You have got ask anything?

Hayagrīva: This is His determination to incarnate as Lord Caitanya.

Prabhupāda: Lord Caitanya, yes.

Hayagrīva: In order to . . .

Prabhupāda: In order to appreciate Kṛṣṇa in the form of gopī. Just like I have got dealings with you. So you have got your individuality, I have got my individuality, but if I want to study how you are so much obedient and loving to me, then I have to go to your position. It is very natural psychology. Yes. You have to paint in that way.

Hayagrīva: I think that's clear.

MadhuGopaldas +  and Rishab +
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August 8, 0012 JL +
BG: 0 +, SB: 0 +, CC: 0 +, OB: 0 +, Lec: 0 +, Conv: 1 +  and Let: 0 +