Brahmānanda: Generally they make it difficult for us to preach.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: They hinder us in so many ways.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: Because they have not realized that we have taken a responsibility. When a man has a responsibility usually he is given some certain facilities to carry out that responsibility.
Prabhupāda: Everyone, cent percent godless, neither they have got intelligence to understand what is God. This is the position.
Yogeśvara: Then we are giving them the intelligence as well as the answers? Because if they have no intelligence to understand...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Our organization is that. Why we are opening so many centers? Just to give these rascals intelligence. Why Kṛṣṇa is recognizing so nicely a preacher? Because He knows that he has to face so many difficulties. He is not easygoing, armchair politician, no. He has to face so many difficulties.
Mādhavānanda: Therefore Kṛṣṇa recognizes by giving knowledge of Himself?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa immediately gives him all facilities.
Mādhavānanda: There has never been a movement like this which has given factual knowledge of God. Therefore they think it's sentiment, religion.
Prabhupāda: So we have to abide by their sentiment? Because they are rascals, we have to become rascal?
Yogeśvara: (aside:) The top has come down? (pause)
Prabhupāda: What is the... Time now?
Harikeśa: 6:17.
Prabhupāda: Even if you take so-called responsibility, you will not be allowed to carry it out. The example I was giving: Napoleon, Hitler, and Gandhi. They took responsibility, but they were driven away. What can I do? So what is the meaning of your responsibility? You will not be allowed to execute your responsibility. What remedy you have done that you will not be allowed, kicked out? Then where is your responsibility? Even if you are very nice gentleman—you have taken responsibility—but nature will not allow you to execute the responsibility. What is your answer to that? Big, big Napoleon, big, big Hitler, big, big Gandhi came and gone. Where is the responsibility executed? The Napoleon was given horse urine. You know? By the Britishers.
Brahmānanda: To drink.
Prabhupāda: Yes. At the last stage when he was asking for water he was given horse urine. He died like that. Hitler committed suicide. Gandhi was killed. So where is their responsibility? They falsely thinking, "Without me, everything will be lost." But they are kicked out; everything is going on.
Dhanañjaya: It's the same with President De Gaulle. President De Gaulle.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now, Nixon is there, but when he was on the office, he was thinking, "Without me America will go to hell." But he has gone to hell; America is there. (laughter) Just see. Just see the position of the... You can see the Nixon. When he was in the office, oh, he was a big man. He was responsible man. Now he is kicked out. He is begging, and America is going on. Where is the need of this responsibility? For several months he was asked that "You give up your responsibility." The rascal will not give: "No, without me America will go to hell." Just see. This is responsible.
Yogeśvara: All of these big politicians, they seem to fall very ill afterwards. They seem to become very sick. Nixon is also sick.
Prabhupāda: Not only sick, they die very soon.
Yogeśvara: Radhakrishnan was paralyzed.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Brain paralyzed. (break)
Harikeśa: Give this to Yogeśvara. (Prabhupāda and devotees get into car and drive away)
Bhagavān: Actually they are envious. We are doing the same things they are doing, but better, and getting the results. We are working. We are doing so many things like they...
Prabhupāda: We are not lazy. (break) ...Nixon was elected. I saw propaganda, "America needs Nixon." You have seen?
Brahmānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: People also thought, "Yes." He never said, "Nixon needs money." (laughter) This is cheating. He needs some money; he said, "America needs Nixon." And the rascals were befooled. (break) All these politicians do like that. What is their responsibility?
Brahmānanda: Now Nixon is in debt. He is now in debt.
Prabhupāda: Debt? Why?
Brahmānanda: For his legal fees. He owes 300,000 dollars. So one rabbi...
Prabhupāda: So he cannot give 300,000 dollars?
Brahmānanda: No, he has no money. He had to pay taxes.
Prabhupāda: So we are paying 300,000. So we are better than him. (break)