Acyutānanda: ...when they do something for their sense gratification, but to sacrifice—"Oh, Kṛṣṇa has to tell me. Kṛṣṇa wills it." Then they don't... They say, "Why did Kṛṣṇa create evil?" Then there is a very peculiar question that comes sometimes: "If Kṛṣṇa knows that we were going to fall down, why didn't He save us?" or something like that.
Prabhupāda: He's saving you.
Sudāmā: In the West, that is a very popular question.
Prabhupāda: He's saving.
Sudāmā: Why didn't...
Prabhupāda: He's asking that "You... I'll save you. You surrender to Me."
Acyutānanda: But that means He knows everything in advance.
Prabhupāda: He knows. He knows that you are a rascal, you'll fall. Therefore He says that "Do this. You'll not fall."
Acyutānanda: And they don't seem to take that answer, and they're very...
Sudāmā: No, they become very embittered: "Why He permits us...? If He is all-loving God, why He permits us to suffer?
Prabhupāda: No, He's not permit... He forbids, but you...
Acyutānanda: You insist.
Prabhupāda: ...that you have to understand, that you have got little independence. That... Actually they do not understand that.
Sudāmā: No. They're not satisfied.
Acyutānanda: They don't...
Sudāmā: Then they say, "Why He give us independence, then?"
Prabhupāda: Then... That is the distinction between you and the stone. Otherwise you would have remained as stone. Because you are moving, therefore He has given you the independence.