Tripurāri: Sometimes the devotees question, if they were pure, then they could get everyone to take a big book. It's simply our fault that we're not pure enough that we can't get everyone to take a big book. Or is it just that we can't engage everyone, we can't get everyone to surrender completely?
Prabhupāda: Well, that is also a devotional attitude. Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu said that "I do not love Kṛṣṇa. So that's... And if I would have loved, then I would have died without His presence. But I am living now. Therefore I have no love for Kṛṣṇa." This is another thing. One who is too much addicted to the service of Kṛṣṇa, that is very good sign. So your headquarter is now Pittsburg?
Tripurāri: No, now Philadelphia.
Prabhupāda: Philadelphia, oh.
Tripurāri: It's in Rūpānuga's zone.
Prabhupāda: In the Philadelphia University, I think, there was one Mr. Norman Brown.
Rūpānuga: The Temple University.
Prabhupāda: Not Temple, Philadelphia.
Rūpānuga: Temple's in Philadelphia.
Devotee (5): There's one called University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, too.
Rūpānuga: The one who took your Nectar of Devotion?
Prabhupāda: No, that is Temple University. There is another university, I think Pittsburg University.
Devotee (5): The University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia.
Prabhupāda: Ah, yes.
Devotee (4): They call it Penn.
Prabhupāda: That university, there is one professor, Norman Brown. I met him. He was a very nice gentleman. He carried my bags to the bus station. He was very kind. His father was a clergyman in India, so he was born in India. So he has got good respect for Indian culture.
Rūpānuga: Is that when you went to speak in Philadelphia?
Prabhupāda: Um hm.
Rūpānuga: Then that was when Nikhilānanda was there. Didn't you speak in his class?
Prabhupāda: Nikhilānanda was in New York.
Rūpānuga: At that time.
Prabhupāda: He is now dead?
Rūpānuga: Yes, I think so.
Prabhupāda: Nikhilānanda was working with Dr. Bose, Bose's laboratory, and before my joining, it was disclosed that I was also... Dr. Bose had one department. He was in charge.
Tripurāri: Śrīla Prabhupāda, you first began to distribute Back to Godhead magazine by yourself, right, in India? You would go to the shops?
Prabhupāda: That was second stage. The first stage I used to publish and distribute as gṛhastha, I did not mind whether one page or not. I was distributing. So spending about four hundred, five hundred rupees, I did not care if one page or not, but I'll distribute. Then, when I retired, left home, I was publishing and distributing myself to get subscription. The subscription was very cheap, two rupees, four annas, I think, for the year. Two copies per month. Just like you published The Harmonist? Like that. Then I published Bhāgavatam. So I was going to libraries, school, colleges, and everyone was purchasing. My Bhāgavata was being purchased by your Congress Library. In Delhi they have got office. So there was standing order, eighteen copies of my book as soon as they are published. The head librarian in India, New Delhi, he gave me standing order. Dallas is very cold? No. Like this.
Tripurāri: Dallas is warm.
Prabhupāda: Warm, oh.
Tripurāri: Probably warmer than here.
Prabhupāda: New York is cold.
Tripurāri: Yes. Now in New York they're distributing 100,000 Back to Godheads every month, New York temple. And you saw the lugloo from New York?
Prabhupāda: (chuckles) Yes. Which lugloo?