Vipina: There is also a small Vedanta Society here in Washington. I had one of our Indian associates, whom I hope you will be able to meet, go there, and he said they could not even discuss the topics of Bhagavad-gītā. They had no conclusions. They were arguing in their own meeting, and no one had any idea what Bhagavad-gītā was, and so many technical points.
Prabhupāda: The meat-eaters are the most sinful. They cannot understand. Vinā paśughnāt, nivṛtta-tarṣair upagīyamānāt (SB 10.1.4). They will have no access.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I think there must be a fundamental mistake in their outlook.
Prabhupāda: No, their life is a mistake, because they are sinful. Their life is a mistake. Misguided.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: This fellow is a chemist, and actually he's very intelligent, and he has read all the Gītās, and he has studied many thoughts on Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
Prabhupāda: First of all, we have to talk with them about this, "What is life?" Then they will talk. If they are on the bodily conception of life, they are animals, which is not. First of all, you have to talk with them on this platform, "What is life." Identification.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: To me, my feeling was that they somewhat look down. They look down in their feeling.
Prabhupāda: Look down?
Hari-śauri: They think that they are superior.
Prabhupāda: But you did not talk with him and argue?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah, I argued.
Prabhupāda: "What is life."
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Well, ultimately he has to accept that, our philosophy.