Pañcadraviḍa: The gopīs, they didn't like very much being instructed by Uddhava?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. That was dry for them. They asked Uddhava, "Bring Kṛṣṇa. We don't want you any more..." (break) What is his name? That...? Tapomāyā. Tapa... He never sees whether it is watered. He is in charge of agricultural department? Where is Jayapatāka? He never sees. One man should be in charge to see things are being done.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Each... What was that, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Each flat.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Each floor?
Prabhupāda: Yes, each floor. Yes. But Tapomāyā, he does not see even that the water is... He is in charge of agriculture?
Jayapatāka: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Similarly, it can be understood how he is seeing, he is managing. He does not see.
Jayapatāka: Right now we only have about four or five men here that are managing everything. He is also purchasing all the things for the festival. The GBC's have been requested to give some men...
Prabhupāda: That means he has no time. Then why he says that "I am in charge." He is not in charge.
Jayapatāka: He is trying to... (break)
Prabhupāda: After all, they are boys. They are not grown up. (break) ...your Calcutta program?
Jayapatāka: They're going tomorrow morning. (break)